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onioneye says

Chill out, people. The drop in sales is perfectly normal over the summer months.

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onioneye says

Agree entirely. Couldn’t have said it better myself.




... But Envato could do a much better job at representing all authors here by pricing themes more appropriately. We should be asking for better pricing, not necessarily higher theme regulation, because as we all know that will never happen.

Exactly. This what needs to be discussed more to avoid complex regulations / restrictions.

Everyone may remember there was a price increment tool introduced for Elite authors. That approach can resolve this issue upto certain extent, since many authors would have no problem raising the price upto 2 or 1.5 times a minimal functional item offers. Sadly the price increment tool discontinued – may be it deserves to be allowed again with some necessary restrictions if preferred.

Personally I don’t think that a simple wider spread of prices will do much to change the situation. The real problem is that Envato has taken too many steps back from it’s duties as regulator and judge in this marketplace. The thing is that this is no longer a proper, decent marketplace, but a turkish bazar where everyone shouts as load as it can, gives you countless discounts, even their “soul” just for that sale – and this is ok if you are selling spices, carpets, meat, fish, food, bread, etc., but NOT when you are selling products thought to be based on good design, creativity, UX, and so on. Seriously this is NOT cool.

As long as there is no curator in the house, with a vision on what his “gallery space” should be exhibiting and what NOT, there isn’t much hope.
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onioneye says

I do push-ups with one arm, while coding with the other.

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onioneye says

No problem. :)

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onioneye says

Now we’re getting all philosophical. :D Since we’re all about that know, I would like to quote a brilliant philosopher, who sums up all of my thoughts about this marketplace:

With this, my contribution to this discussion ends for today. Have a good one! :D


Life is not linear.
One rule doesn’t fit every case.
One doesn’t simply predict everything perfectly.
Since I am not fully experienced with TF, I go to other threads… :P
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onioneye says

I know you’re into that kind of stuff. :) I checked out your profile years ago stalk mode on, and saw your flash video about the Mayans or Aztecs, if I recall well, which is the reason why I said what I did, to see if it will trigger you to say something about it. Mission successful :D

However, I’d prefer if we could leave our personal beliefs on one side, when it comes to the discussion about the future of the marketplace.



acting like you know what’s going to happen in the future is best left to the likes of Nostradamus or the Mayans. :)
well that’s another topic and don’t get me started on that … ask VF :D I did successfully predict 4 million members on the summer/winter solstice, so who knows ;)
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onioneye says

Even if the other types of themes started selling much better all of a sudden, after increasing the prices of multi-purpose ones (which is a very dubious prediction, by the way), where is the logic behind increasing the price of something that is not of better quality? That just wrong on so many levels, and I just can not agree with that, no matter of the perceived benefits for more simple themes.

There must be another way of distinguishing multi-purpose themes from other types of themes. Raising the price of lower quality software is just a ridiculous, in my opinion, and relying on the hope that this will somehow give the competitive advantage to more simple themes is yet another flawed argument for this whole thing.


We have to use our imagination here, but say heavy bloated themes were priced higher – they would still sell well but would level the playing field for lighter single purpose themes. So if value for money wasn’t the overriding factor and everything was priced accordingly what would the main factors for selling be: originality, uniqueness, latest trends, quality, front end design. light and clean code, usability etc… this is what would make a better marketplace. If $40 files could become top sellers for the week, then these are the types of new trends we would see.
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onioneye says

Oh, but still, you should now that I get absolutely no pressure from the reviewers to put more features into a WordPress theme. I could build something with even the most minimal options panel, and still have it accepted, as long as it is a quality theme (aesthetically pleasing, good usability and typography, well-structured code…)



Having a blog has always been the de facto standard with WordPress themes on ThemeForest, way, way before the multi-purpose trend. Besides, WordPress started as an exclusively blogging platform, so I guess it is reasonable to ask to have a basic support for the defaut post type, that comes packed with every WordPress installation.
Speaking about HTML template! :D Pointed it was just an example.
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onioneye says

I agree – people will go where the money’s at. However, I am not sure what makes you believe that the multi-purpose themes would still be the best selling ones, if the trend changed. Markets are very hard to predict, and acting like you know what’s going to happen in the future is best left to the likes of Nostradamus or the Mayans. :)


Authors make what ever sells better… if lighter themes sold the best, more authors would make them… if making heavy multi-purpose themes wasn’t worth the time, authors would stop making them.

If everyone stopped making multi-purpose themes – all the current top multi-purpose themes would continue to sell ;) So authors can’t stop this trend, buyers want value for money.
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onioneye says

Having a blog has always been the de facto standard with WordPress themes on ThemeForest, way, way before the multi-purpose trend. Besides, WordPress started as an exclusively blogging platform, so I guess it is reasonable to ask to have a basic support for the defaut post type, that comes packed with every WordPress installation.

Besides, I build portfolio themes myself, and I have never had a problem with providing stylings for blogs.



I see many authors acting as if they are pushed into developing multi-purpose themes, like there is no other way to sell well and make a good living. Stop perpetuating this trend and making victims out of yourselves because this is not true.
I have the same opinion, but there are some rare examples I came across in the forum makes me think authors are little bit forced to come-up with feature rich templates. For example Creative / portfolio based templates getting reviewer advice of adding blog section etc.
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