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onioneye says

The main point from the Webdesigner Depot article:

“Services that just give you the ability to host an online store or that deliver digital downloads for you will not exempt you from having to deal with the VAT yourself.”

Well, first of all, Envato doesn’t give us an ability to host our own online store (companies like shopify offer that service), and they also do not just deliver digital downloads for us; they sell them, and that’s pretty clear given how the system works. It’s silly to claim otherwise.

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onioneye says

I’m just going to say one thing here: the author confidence in Envato is the lowest it has ever been, since I joined this community around 4 years ago. I think that speaks for itself.

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onioneye says

From this article: http://www.webdesignerdepot.com/2014/12/everything-web-designers-need-to-know-about-vatmoss/

In order to avoid dealing with VAT … “You need to ensure that the third party does become the seller of the item or service, and has their company name on the invoices.”

After reading the paragraph where this is stated, I couldn’t not believe that Envato is trying to avoid being the seller, when everything clearly implies that they are in fact the sellers of our goods.

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onioneye says

Plot twist: the customer bought the theme one hour ago, and sent 10 emails within the span of 20 minutes :D

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onioneye says


In actuality, it’s quite the opposite from that. The new rules have been introduced because of large corporations (I mean of course, that’s where the money is), to stop them from avoiding taxes by having their headquarters in tax havens such as Luxembourg.

really? :)

are you aware that taxes and VAT are two different things? Are you also aware that this offshore country know as Luxembourg is one of the center of European institution?

So first EU let these tax heaven offshore countries exist inside EU, they create the main financial center of EU in Luxembourg and then, by asking small business to figure out where their buyers are, and force them to deal with dozens of different countries bureaucratic institutions, they fix the big corporations stolen taxes problem?

What about creating a standard fixed tax and VAT rate over the whole Europe including this Luxembourg tax heaven state?

With these new changes big corporations have the financial power to comply with the rules but one dude in his garage can’t. Result is that the dude will go out of business while bringing back the revenue to the corporations that this small dude got each month. Just dealing with ONE country bureaucracy is enough to make you mad, imagine dealing with 28 of them!

Hmmm, interesting point of view. I am just going to say that I am not sure about anything anymore. It’s hard to figure out what to believe in these days :D

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onioneye says


In actuality, it’s quite the opposite from that. The new rules have been introduced because of large corporations (I mean of course, that’s where the money is), to stop them from avoiding taxes by having their headquarters in tax havens such as Luxembourg.

really? :)

are you aware that taxes and VAT are two different things? Are you also aware that this offshore country know as Luxembourg is one of the center of European institution?

So first EU let these tax heaven offshore countries exist inside EU, they create the main financial center of EU in Luxembourg and then, by asking small business to figure out where their buyers are, and force them to deal with dozens of different countries bureaucratic institutions, they fix the big corporations stolen taxes problem?

What about creating a standard fixed tax and VAT rate over the whole Europe including this Luxembourg tax heaven state?

With these new changes big corporations have the financial power to comply with the rules but one dude in his garage can’t. Result is that the dude will go out of business while bringing back the revenue to the corporations that this small dude got each month. Just dealing with ONE country bureaucracy is enough to make you mad, imagine dealing with 28 of them!

Hmmm, interesting point of view. I am just going to say that I am not sure about anything anymore. It’s hard to figure out what to believe in these days :D

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onioneye says

Lots of useful and interesting information about the new VAT rules can be found on twitter as well: https://twitter.com/search?q=vatmoss&src=typd

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onioneye says


These new, crazy VAT rules are devastating for small businesses
is why they were introduced in the first place :)

In actuality, it’s quite the opposite from that. The new rules have been introduced because of large corporations (I mean of course, that’s where the money is), to stop them from avoiding taxes by having their headquarters in tax havens such as Luxembourg.

However, the new VAT rules apply to small businesses as well, like us authors, and it seems that the people who are making these laws are completely ignorant to the problems this will cause for these sort of businesses. Many of them will just have to shut down completely after January the 1st, simply because they will not be able to comply with these crazy new rules.

Check this out:

From 1st January 2015, the rules change on which country’s VAT rate to charge on B2C sales of digital services. Instead of charging the local VAT rate of the digital services provider, the EU VAT rate of the consumer must be levied. Since many large US electronic services providers have their EU headquarters located in Luxembourg, which has low taxes on such services, this means a big shift in tax receipts from Luxembourg to the other 27 member states.

Source: http://www.vatlive.com/european-news/luxembourg-wins-e1-1bn-eu-states-vat-moss-compensation/

Why should small businesses like you and I suffer because of what the large corporations are doing to avoid taxes? This is ridiculous.

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onioneye says

ok, I’ve signed – doubt this will help though

Never underestimate the power of these petitions. This campaign in particular seems to have already had some success within the UK: https://www.change.org/p/pierre-moscovici-a-unilateral-suspension-of-the-introduction-of-the-new-eu-vat-laws-for-micro-businesses-and-sole-traders/u/9045091

These new, crazy VAT rules are devastating for small businesses, and they need to be stopped. I suggest everyone sign the petition at https://www.change.org/p/pierre-moscovici-a-unilateral-suspension-of-the-introduction-of-the-new-eu-vat-laws-for-micro-businesses-and-sole-traders

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onioneye says

Heya guys. Some posts had to be removed because consumer law prohibits the discussion of pricing as it can stray into possible price fixing. Thanks!

??? I never mentioned anything about pricing, and you removed my comment. :|

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