I like the general concept, especially with the “V” and the scoop of ice cream on top. I think the main part that lowers the quality of your logo/submission to creattica is actually the vignetted background. It distracts too much attention away from the actual logo resulting in less impact for your logo. Also, on a minor point, that vignetted background is actually superimposed on top of the logo (or your logotype is transparent). Either way, be sure to put your logotype in the foreground. Finally, consider that with all that text, the logo is actually quite verbose. You could try some variations without the tag line included. Hope those observations help.
Where would the files be stored? Would AJ like to make a spot for it?
Good question! We would allow authors to upload it anywhere (their own server, a free file hosting system), BUT , we would also give a link to a recommended/reliable service. No, the files would not be stored on AudioJungle. It would be too time consuming. Part of the point and attraction is to upload as quickly as possible to maintain that momentum. Waiting on me to take everyone’s files and store them somewhere and then provide links might get a little crazy!
Ha, ha, don’t worry, we’ll finalize the rules soon. It’s better that we keep discussing everyone’s ideas and thoughts now before anything starts and then end up changing the rules half way through, that might get confusing! Here’s what I’m thinking at the moment:
- Someone posts a link in the forum to a WAV file they have created. It HAS to be based on one instrument, riff or sound otherwise it will be hard to add to this file.
- The first person to accept the challenge responds in the forum something like, “Challenge accepted!”, or something more creative if you want to.
- From the moment the challenge is accepted, that author has a maximum of 4 hours to download the track, add it to their DAW , and then add something to the composition in a new layer. The author is allowed to cut-up, tweak or add effects in any way to the previous author’s WAV file. But the most important part is to add another layer/track too.
- Author will work on something that looks like this:
- Author then does two things. ( A ) The author bounces the entire song in mp3 format. ( B ) The author also exports all individual tracks/layers in WAV format.
- Once bouncing is complete, the author ( C ) Posts a comment in the official Track Tennis thread with (i) a link to the mp3 file, and (ii) a link to a .zip containing both WAV files.
- Any author can download and comment on the audio/mp3 file at this stage, say whether it’s cool or ask how it was done etc…
- Someone ELSE now comes along (it cannot be any of the previous authors on this particular song), posts “Challenge accepted!” takes the 2 WAV files, and then adds another layer to it using exactly the same method. This author will then add a third layer/track, export an mp3 of the entire song, and provide a link to 3 WAV files in a .zip.
- This keeps going until the community think that the song should end and nothing more should (or could!) be added. Alternatively, we could set a limit of a certain number of rounds or tracks/layers – 8 for example.
- Once a track is done, we start over with a brand new track and the fun begins again.
How does this general concept sound? Yay? Nay? Do any more rules need to be defined?
Cool. Let us know what your impressions are of the upgrade and if you think it’s worth upgrading to from LP8 . I’ve heard some reviews that LP9 is awesome for first-time owners/users, but might not be worth it for current LP8 users. Everyone’s experiences and opinions are different of course, but it’s always good to get multiple people’s opinions.
How about more of a volley ball concept where the author who hit’s the ball back is voted upon. Put the entries up to a vote and the track continues from there?
Is this in reference to option (a) or (b)? Voting would be great for (a) but I’m wondering if it would kill the momentum of (b) ? So it might depend on which version you are wanting to apply voting to. What do you think?
(a) someone posts a instrument loop and then someone that want to be next reply with quote with text like “I’m next…”(b) let’s say something like 1 hour? 2 hours? it’s different
I like that idea, Daniel, nice one! This would allow anyone in the forums to grab it when they’re online and then post something back fairly quickly. Let’s definitely keep this in mind!
if we did not include any help file in the download and the help file was only available online – this could help combat piracy and those with illegal copies as they will have no help documentation and only those valid purchases will be able to access this online help file.
All good ideas in this thread! However, just to clarify: If you make your help file publicly available for everyone to see via a tab, that actually HELPS piracy. That’s why we don’t currently allow authors to link to help files because if someone steals your file, they just come back to your description page, see the link to the help file, and then they have everything they need. So if I could add one change to this request it would be, make the Help tab only visible to customers.
Secondly, there would always need to be a system in place where reviewers check your updates to help files to prevent any inappropriate changes being made.
Finally, just to set the record straight, although it is very possible for someone to purchase your file and then pirate it (so they have access to the help documentation), in MOST cases (not all, but most cases) where piracy occurs (unfortunately), pirates are illegally and unethically decompiling previews. And help files are not part of the previews. I thought that would be worth mentioning… So the biggest problem here is not the fact that help files are part of the files customers purchase and download, it’s the overall protection of the Flash file preview that’s the biggest and most important issue/challenge we all face.
I still love Rob’s original idea and I think we should totally try this out in the forums. Like Rob said, let’s keep things simple at first. It doesn’t have to be a competition for prizes, just something community related. Who knows, maybe it will turn into something bigger later, but for now, I think it would be cool to keep this inside the forum while we test it out and refine it along the way.
So the way I see things at the moment (but please contribute more/better suggestions if you would prefer to do this differently) we have two options:
- Someone creates and uploads a loop in WAV format. Just based on one instrument, not a full track loop. Then everyone creates a unique track based on this loop and then shares it on the forums.
- Alternatively, someone creates a loop, again, with one instrument and in WAV format. Then the next person that comes along takes this WAV , adds it to their DAW , and then adds a new layer on top of this. User links to a bounced version combining all elements. Each layer/track in the new song (at this point there are 2 tracks) get exported individually as separate WAVs ready for the next person to use. Those WAVs get reposted, then it’s someone elses turn to download, add another layer/track, export, and upload/make available back on the forums. This continues until… it gets too messy I guess.
I really like that last suggestion as it maintains the original “tennis” aspect. We would just need to set some extra rules like, (a) How do we determine which person goes next and (b) How long everyone has to post back their new versions in order to keep the momentum going.
Does anyone have any preferences which version you would like to try? Are there any other rules you would like to add or change?