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sevenspark Moderator says

Congrats, Paul!

mmmmm, TimTams… must… not… snack….

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sevenspark Moderator says

I can’t speak to Envato’s official stance on this, but in my opinion as an author, I think it is reasonable that a single regular license should cover the use of the product on both a production (live) and development (private) instance of the same site. I always tell my customers this.

Every site should have a development/staging/test version that its owner tests out changes on before pushing to production. This prevents 99% of the craziness that occurs when a user takes down their site by mistake with a function name typo – if it’s on a test site, no big deal. If it’s on a prod site, it’s seen as armageddon.

I strongly believe we should be encouraging customers to always use staging sites when installing/altering any code. Forcing the alternative encourages cowboy coding and will just result in increased customer frustration and stress. Proper testing environments make everyone’s lives easier :)

If the current license restricts this, I would vote for it to be altered to include this usage in the future. :)

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sevenspark Moderator says

There’s nothing that can be done from a theme standpoint, it’s a server configuration issue. The server is simply preventing more than X variables from being received, and when WordPress doesn’t receive those variables, it deletes the associated menu items.

Since you can’t go editing the WordPress core (which still wouldn’t resolve the issue entirely), the only real solution is to adjust the max_input_vars directive

This might be help you understand the issue more in-depth :) http://sevenspark.com/wordpress/menu-item-limit

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sevenspark Moderator says

Awesome, thanks, Dave! :)

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sevenspark Moderator says


Do you think redirecting through my site to the Envato download URL would work, and is just more complex – or do you think it’d actually cause issues?

That would work fine, I bounce from an authenticated url on my server to a 3rd party file host. So WordPress does handle redirections in the update just fine.

Awesome, thanks!

Setup this update script on a new domain/subdomain that can easily be moved/scaled in the future.

Yeah, I have a subdomain set up and pointing to an entirely different server to make sure the potential load spikes can’t take down any of the critical sites.

You will see a lot of broken WordPress installs that hit your server every few seconds for updates. It’s incredible! I had to do some tricky caching based in referrer/post data to take the load off my php script.

Wow, that’s crazy. I’d love to hear any suggestions/code you have for deflecting those requests. Are you dynamically updating an htaccess or something like that?

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sevenspark Moderator says
hey for auto updates that bounce through your server I would avoid the download url and just self host the files. verify their purchase with the purchase code. this is easier because the end user doesn’t have to go and find their API key, just a purchase code

The main reason I was avoiding that is that I’ve been told in the past that serving the files from my own server constituted “distributing the files outside of Envato” and therefore broke the exclusivity agreement (even when authenticated). Seems a bit crazy, but this is why I haven’t previously implemented it. Updating through the Envato download link avoids that issue altogether.

But beyond that, it’s a whole lot of bandwidth for 37,000 customers, plus spikes on the processing load. To be honest, I’m just not 100% sure my current infrastructure will scale to that load, and it’s tough to load test without just trying it out in the wild (which could end very badly).

It seems like downloading straight from Envato should be the path of least resistance.

Do you think redirecting through my site to the Envato download URL would work, and is just more complex – or do you think it’d actually cause issues?

if you’re playing aroung with auto updates can you try and get network plugins updating?

I was looking at that myself, but hadn’t come up with a solution yet. If I figure anything out, I’ll definitely let you know :)

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sevenspark Moderator says

Thanks, Chris – yeah, I’m using it for a CodeCanyon WordPress plugin.

I appreciate the resource – looked through the code and I’m assuming you’re referring to ‘wp-download’. I will have to test that out and see if it returns anything for a plugin :)

I’d love to hear from a staff member/dev if that endpoint won’t count toward the download limit. Since the current download count isn’t made public, there’s no real way to tell until I actually hit the limit.

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sevenspark Moderator says

Thanks very much for your input, Gewora and Dave! I really appreciate it :)

The issue is that I’m hooking into the WordPress update system. So I have an update checker retrieving data from my server, at which point I need to return a link to the download package URL, which WordPress then holds onto until the user actually runs the upgrade.

So do you think if I made that download URL point to my own site, which then queried the Envato API, retrieved the download link, and redirected to it, that that would work? This is something I’d normally just experiment with, but since I’m running up against that limit, I want to maximize what I get out of every test :)

Thanks again!

Chris

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sevenspark Moderator says

Hey guys, question about the API:

Short version

Using the download-purchase API endpoint (which retrieves a download URL for the user) seems to count toward the file download limit, even if the file is never actually downloaded. I’m wondering if anyone can confirm that, if that is the intended functionality, and what is the best way to avoid hitting that limit.

Detailed version

I’m trying to provide my customers direct access to their plugin download package via the Envato API. I have been testing with a purchase code and API key, and using this endpoint:

http://marketplace.envato.com/api/v3/USERNAME/API-KEY/download-purchase:550e8400-e29b-41d4-a716-446655440000.json

See: http://marketplace.envato.com/api/documentation

The result set looks like this:

{"download-purchase":{"download_url":"_download_url_is_here_"}}

This was working great. I only ever actually followed the download URL and downloaded the file once (just to test it was working). After that, I explicitly never downloaded the file, specifically because I knew there were limitations on how many times I could do so.

However, after testing for a while, it suddenly stopped working, and returning a message that the download was not currently available. Checking the Downloads page for that account, I saw the message that I’d exceeded 20 downloads in 24 hours, and the download was temporarily disabled.

I didn’t actually download the file 20 times, but I bet I hit the API requesting a download link 20 times.

So here’s the issue:

It seems that just hitting the purchase-download end point, even without ever downloading the file, counts toward the file limit

Questions

So here are my questions:

1. Can anyone confirm this behavior?

My conclusion above, that even if you don’t download the file, it counts toward the download limit – has anyone else experienced this? (Perhaps I’m missing something)

Assuming this is the case:

2. Is this the intended functionality?

I’m wondering if a dev could comment on this and explain whether there is a purpose to counting API queries toward the limit, even if a download doesn’t occur (and, if you query the download-purchase endpoint, and then actually download the file, would that count as 2 downloads toward the limit)?

3. Is the result from the purchase-download endpoint good indefinitely?

If querying the download URL is going to count toward the download limit, obviously I can’t do this every time. Instead, I could cache the URL for a specific user, rather than hitting the API every time. However, is this download link good indefinitely? Can I provide the user with the same link 6 months from now and have it work? If not, what is its lifespan?

Update: as Gewora pointed out, it is a temporary link. Looking at the URL more closely, this should have been apparent to me :)

Obviously, I can’t provide this code to my customers if it’s going to burn through their download limit, so I’d like to find out what the best way around this is.

I’m wondering if anyone else has run into this previously and might have some insight. I’m going to submit a support ticket as well (since I need to clear that limit anyway), but I’m hoping others who have played with the API more might have some experience with this.

Thanks, guys! :)

Chris

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sevenspark Moderator says

I don’t think you’re getting spam from that demo site. It sounds more like the spam is coming through a contact form on your site, but because you imported the demo content, the email template in Contact Form 7 still has the text “This e-mail was sent from a contact form on Arista (http://demo.qkthemes.com/arista)" in it.

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