My question to the envato team is that… “WHY CAN’T YOUR REVIEW PROCESS BE AS SMOOTH AS THIS, WHY CAN’T YOU TELL US WHY OUR TEMPLATE WAS REJECTED SO WE CAN MAKE CORRECTIONS”
The answer is that envato is a much, much larger marketplace than most other, and the amount of submissions is crazy. Reviewers simply don’t have time to give a detailed review for items that are not close enough to be accepted.
When your item reaches the “almost there” level, then you will one day get a soft-rejection, which will come with specific details on what you need to improve to get approved.
It has been mentioned many times before. Even if it takes, let’s say 5 minutes to write a small, helpful review – consider that 100 templates have been submitted today and are nowhere near the level expected to be sold here on TF. And believe me, these numbers are probably not too far off the reality.
5 minutes x 100 = 8hours 20minutes. A full working day spent teaching users some of the basics of template / theme creations..
The way it works here – if you get hard rejected, you go to the “item discussion” forum and post a link to your demo – that’s where you’ll get the feedback you need. That’s how i learned myself, and i am now giving some feedback there on a regular basis.
Also, your way of writing everything in ALLCAPS in the final statement just to drive your point home is just not the way to go. It will put off anyone from making helping you a priority.
Hope my answers brings some light to your question.
@ZoomIt 28,228 support requests – Happy days!
I think we’re going to take a break from the badges threads right now because I believe we have enough feedback to move ahead with future changes and there was just way too many personal attacks going on in those threads. Like I said, I don’t mind having a reasonable and constructive conversation, but those threads felt like they were bringing out the worst in people. I think we all need a bit of a breather
Like i said, don’t let the personal attacks make you guys forget that there were a few pieces of really good, constructive feedback in there. I remember myself spending over 20 minutes to write a detailed feedback – you can read it here – and there were a few other posts that were really interesting / constructive.
I believe most of the personal attacks came right at the start (to be expected with any change, like when IOS7 came out) – and then after the “We’d like to be clear: we are not reverting back to old badges and the overall art direction is not going to change”.
I know it doesn’t mean icons will remain the exact same, but to many it was a big punch in the face from the person that puts emphasise on “together” in many posts / newsletters.
Ok, enough about these badges, sorry to hassle you with it but i felt it could create some sparks to shut down the thread just like that – not that the forums need more fire
No more messages about the badges, I promise!
I’ll move on to the avatars now
- I would change the text copy font – it’s a bit hard to read and too small
- Make the navigation “fixed” after it reaches the top so it scrolls down with the sections under it and allows user to quickly navigate without coming back to the top
- Work on your spacing a little bit – maybe use a baseline tool like http://basehold.it to adjust your vertical rythm
Good luck! If you’re the same person i think you are (who was trying to upload a “coming soon” HTML template a couple of months ago), this is already a big improvement!
Don’t give up – dig deeper!
I’ll post my suggestion here again – keep the exact same new avatar but make it light gray, it will blend in much better and remain non-intrusive, silent, to allow focus on content.
Can someone point me to the “mother thread” of discussion about the new badges, since both existing (and active) threads were locked a few hours ago?
Or is this the point where no one shall mention these badges anymore and move on?
I personally think that most of the criticism was constructive in there, and i don’t think you will send a message of “We’re in this together” by locking the discussion.
Not trying to be a pain here – just getting a feeling some people may be taking this specific locking with a bit of a sour taste.
I would have at least said thank you to the users who brought positive, structured comments and even took the time to present their own proposal of icon sets – rather than focusing on the “ranting and personal offenses” and close the thread on that call.
I know the job of moderating the forums and deciding when to lock ain’t an easy task at all. I just you can’t just press the mute button on such a hearty topic as the user badges.
Honneslty, you should change to a light-gray, as my example below. It took a good 30 seconds to remove saturation and lighten to make it look like a proper “i don’t have a profile photo yet” user avatar.
In the envato UX, that green is the “highlight” color for important things like purchase button, etc.. Is the default avatar really deserving that highlight status?
Seriously, look at this image and the image posted by GravityDept 3 posts up. Which one is the most appropriate and make the forum more readable?
Can we expect a change, or does the designer love the art direction too much and with time, we hopefully will too?
Send your t-shirt back – it’s the wrong icon
So… Icons are made with avatar-like details and depth, and default avatar is made with icon-like simplicity, flat.
That said i like the default avatar, although i would have kept it gray for it to be more silent.. but see, this exact avatar is a better icon than most icons currently under our avatars. Scale it down and it still looks good. It could easily replace the chain link “has refered x members”..