Posts by thepainterman

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thepainterman
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I have a ltd company in the UK , I would assume the ltd company registration cert would be more than sufficient as it is accepted by banks that you have a business and a bank has far more authority than envato. If you are in the UK you wish to consider being LIMITED company, If envato don’t accept that as being a legitimate business, they are at it. Any form of tax correspondence with a business name would also be acceptable.

Again had any thought been put into this, at the beginning of the year envato could have said you have 3 months to provide us with proof of trading. No such luck, looks to me like they want everyone to do the work and then email their “vat” email so they only need to verify rather than find out information.

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@MigC Regarding a period of subsidation: This new EU ruling was actually in effect since 1st of January, Envato have subsidised this VAT burden in it’s whole for the past 2 and a half months, which is pretty decent of them I’d say :)

Can’t argue with that, that is a very good point that I had completely missed.

@MigC & @DOGMotion Regarding VAT added to your items & or, VAT added to your purchases: this new ‘micro’ VAT actually comes from a new EU ruling that any digital product bought by an individual from a country in the EU must have that countries VAT ruling applied to the purchase, is it annoying? Yes of course. Are Envato doing anything wrong? No, they’re just following the new rules as set out by the EU courts.

My opinion, and I respectfully admit we do not agree here, is that Envato could do more by allowing businesses to prove their EU business status without a VAT number and with suitable proof (tax documents, company website, commercial documents).

This is relevant because of the fact that I and many others will be paying a tax that legally does not apply to them . For example, EU freelancers under the VAT threshold are not required to pay VAT on these transactions, it is at entirely Envato’s discretion.

Official Source: https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/vat-supplying-digital-services-to-private-consumers/vat-businesses-supplying-digital-services-to-private-consumers#determining-whether-the-customer-is-in-business-a-taxable-person-or-is-a-private-consumer

Thats’s a good find, indeed envato will need to rework their vat for each country, if indeed freelancers are not required to pay vat if they are under the threshold then it makes a clear case for the fact VAT should not automatically be added to every sale. Also if they are over the threshold, they will have vat number anyway. Envato have just taken a blanket approach, the easy way out. Odd enough when prices went up, they went up around 20%, I wonder why, maybe to cover the vat til they tried to find a solution ?

Instead of putting thought into it, what envato have done is said to themselves, we can’t be bothered working a system based on each countries thresholds, we’ll hit every sale with vat, it makes it easier. In the UK the vat threshold is something over 70k, each country is different, this is the part envato can’t be bothered with,

Once sales take a real hit, we’ll see if they start to use a real system.

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As for collecting VAT on items from non EU residents not sure that falls under MOSS or should even be allowed. Hopefully authors post their website urls in their profiles and I will buy direct and bypass envato and save 20%. It will be interesting to see how sales go, but given the fact zero noice has been given, I expect a drop in sales across the board.

Notice was given from last year.. In the last months they created a lot of blog posts about this.

And about extra VAT for EU authors, all stores are doing it. Haven’t you ever purchased something online? Just try to purchase WinZip for example.. You’ll have to pay the price + VAT based on your country. I pay VAT on almost all of my digital purchases outside Envato (hosting, applications, services, etc.).

I see my point has gone right over your head, I MEANT the actual date of implementation e.g instead of just doing add the code for vat to the checkout, they could have said on the 17th of March your countries vat rate will be added to your purchase, not hard is it, I admit it does require some common sense. As regards to hosting etc you’re right however in all cases I had advanced notice and paid several things well in advance to lock in the savings, I would have done that here as well.

To highlight my point, I am seeing people above, who would have bought the avada wordpress theme, as an example, now re considering, had they had notice (banner at top of site a week before implementation, for example, pre warning of the impending changes) I’m confident these people would have purchased based on the fact the cost to them was going to rise.

I realize envato had to add vat, that isn’t my issue, it’s the fact overnight the just sprung it on the site, if they knew a week ago, why not announce it ? They will be liable for vat since the 1st Jan anyway. As for adding vat to non eu authors files, I am not getting that.

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Very poorly planned. I would have thought some notice would have at least pre warned those affected and would no doubt have resulted in additional sales during this period. To just implement it overnight makes no sense at all.

I would have personally bought more items, now I will be more selective given the items will cost 20% more. Had envato put any thought into it they would have announced a date and given people the opportunity to save money.

I can only speak on a personally basis as someone who is affected, registering for VAT is something I want to avoid as I would then need to charge VAT on my prices. It is a good time to make friends with people in countries outside the US have them buy the item (and repay them) and send it to you along with the purchase code.

Anyway poorly handled envato.

As for collecting VAT on items from non EU residents not sure that falls under MOSS or should even be allowed. Hopefully authors post their website urls in their profiles and I will buy direct and bypass envato and save 20%. It will be interesting to see how sales go, but given the fact zero noice has been given, I expect a drop in sales across the board.

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I’d imagine envato will handle this for one major reason, if you sell direct you get the customers contact info, which means you can direct market to them and cut envato out.

It’s a rip off tax, I am also gobsmacked envato are not pushing pre vat sales with some kind of promotion. I’m a buyer and have noticed sales slide, 20% on top is a big hit for buyer. The price hike during a recession looks to have already hit sales, then this, yet envato are painfully slow at decent promotions.

I am not saying the items are not value for money, I am saying in a competitive market price matters. I cannot see how envato or anyone else is liable for pre 2015 sales btw.

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If it is wordpress surely something should be done if it is wordpress, it’ll basically be useless after an update or 2. Envato’s refund policy seems to be you download, no refund. Hopefully common sense prevails for a theme with no support or updates. Given he has taken so long (I assume) to install, he hasn’t actually used the theme before now.

I’d be all over your new theme thread if , when you openly admit the theme was bad, you leave the customers high and dry with no support.

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Gotta laugh at the authors clambering to get their theme of the list for fear of it affecting sales and not worrying about their customers who maybe don’t update often and would be unware of any issues , if it were not for the full list, that they are affected. They’d be the kind of authors I’d avoid.

It seems envato were more than a bit slow off the mark with this to say the least. Then the fact if the plugins are bundled the theme creator is responsible just adds even more confusion and delay to the issue.

If you have a good host, they will fix issues like this for you, I have been hacked before, a reason why I far prefer html, and hostgator cleaned it up without me even being aware I had been hacked. When a site is making you money you don’t need the hassle of constantly having to update. If you host other sites on the same hosting plan the hackers have full access to those as well so make sure you check all your sites.

I did get 2 emails from envato the other day but given this was fixed months ago I’d say alot of people are gonna be having issues. Hackers send out bots to seek sites with the vunerable version installed.

Longer term themes either come with no plugins or a licence for supplied plugins so they are made aware of any issues far faster. Wordpress is easier to use than html for most people but it comes with a price.

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For buyers there should be a tiered discount, I don’t see anything there that is useful for buyers, a vast majority will deposit prepaid, I’d say your play on lowering fees without prepaid is any affiliates will lose out as the last time I looked any commission was based on pre deposited funds only, that’s correct right ?

Also for buyers who have bought say over 250-300 items should get a periodical 25% one off voucher so they can stock up and save money. This would create a burst of revenue for both envato and authors, it’s basic marketing. Envato has never really been on the ball for marketing, this only helps envato not many others.

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This probably sums it all up :D https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8l1M2rCCrA
Thanks for the link. Just contacted him, we need some advertising material. We are happy to help him, filling up his portfolio. :)

lol

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Ok I’m no html expert however I have seen examples , lets say there is a photo of someone holding a tablet or laptop they have made the screen a placeholder. I have managed to get a video showing so I’d looking to use different images and create cool placeholders within photos. How is this done. I realize if I had a similar photograph I’d use photoshop to remove the original screen image so effectively the screen area is transparent, how do I position a placeholder to fit exactly.

I realize most will not post a step by step, I understand, but if someone could point me in the right direction to learning this it’d be appreciated. Having a creative mind I see many opportunities for this and I’d like to toy around with it.

Ok I’ll use a photo to clarify. Lets say I buy this photo and use it on my website http://photodune.net/item/girl-holding-laptop-with-network-contacts/5646876?WT.ac=solid_search_thumb&WT.seg_1=solid_search_thumb&WT.z_author=dolgachov

How would I create a placeholder for where the existing screen content is e.g swap out the mind map type content and use that area as a placeholder for a video etc.

Thanks in advance for any help. I’d point to a theme or 2 but don’t want to look like I am favoring a particular theme.

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