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wptitans says
jscheetz said
wptitans said
It is a standard auto responder :P , we had responded politely but he reached the end conclusion pretty quickly. If he had waited a little more we could have helped them. We deal with a lot of support on a daily base and we are able to reply within 48 hours, sometimes a little later but they are very respectful and awesome. When this happens we feel quite disappointed.
I’m actually interested in knowing how you’ve set up your auto-responder. Does it send an email when they purchase like the standard Envato one does? Do share!

Hi Justin,

we’ve opened a gmail account for our support for the time being. Then we have activated the auto responder inside the gmail settings.

This way the buyer receives the responder whenever they contact us through our contact form on our profile page.

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tonvie says
AlexPascal said
wptitans said
When this happens we feel quite disappointed.
Rightly so. Buyers like this shouldn’t be rewarded with support and politeness after they potentially ruin an item’s rating because they think they’re hot sh*t and can’t wait a couple hours.

I would venture to say it’s a ‘wash’ in the end…I’d bet as many people who pull the trigger for a 1 star, later regret it as I’ve done. Likewise, I’ve also given themes 5 stars that after a month of working with the theme, I wish I’d given it 1 star and not been so wooed by the fluff. Not sure how valid the ‘ruining an items rating’ is, as mistakes happen both in favor and against the author.

No matter, I think we can agree in this particular case, someone freaked out prematurely because of an autoresponder of all things. I still say kill him with kindness until he apologizes :)

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NuclearThemes says

While there are some buyers out there that abuse the rating system, the average rating is more important than 1 buyer. If a single buyer leaves a 1 star, and you have plenty of other ratings your average is still high so it’s not something to worry about.

I’ve yet to launch my theme on here so as always my advice carries very little weight but I’m sure others out here will agree with me.

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ThemeShaper says
NuclearThemes said
While there are some buyers out there that abuse the rating system, the average rating is more important than 1 buyer. If a single buyer leaves a 1 star, and you have plenty of other ratings your average is still high so it’s not something to worry about. I’ve yet to launch my theme on here so as always my advice carries very little weight but I’m sure others out here will agree with me.

Whilst that is mostly true in general, at the beginning of an items release, a couple of ‘wrong’ 1 star ratings can result in a 1-3 star rating- which will really affect an items sales. Assuming 1 out of 10 or so rate, it can also take a while for any such damage to be undone..

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PixelBin says
tonvie said
AlexPascal said
wptitans said
When this happens we feel quite disappointed.
Rightly so. Buyers like this shouldn’t be rewarded with support and politeness after they potentially ruin an item’s rating because they think they’re hot sh*t and can’t wait a couple hours.

I would venture to say it’s a ‘wash’ in the end…I’d bet as many people who pull the trigger for a 1 star, later regret it as I’ve done. Likewise, I’ve also given themes 5 stars that after a month of working with the theme, I wish I’d given it 1 star and not been so wooed by the fluff. Not sure how valid the ‘ruining an items rating’ is, as mistakes happen both in favor and against the author.

No matter, I think we can agree in this particular case, someone freaked out prematurely because of an autoresponder of all things. I still say kill him with kindness until he apologizes :)

An apology won’t change the rating, and even if we take into account the possibility that he might buy one of your next themes, it doesn’t change the original theme’s rating nor will it make him appreciate the additional bonus of countless hours of support offered by the author simply by awarding the theme a positive rating.

Simply put, punishment fits the crime. He’ll think twice about rating a theme 1 star because he didn’t get the author’s life for $35.

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Enabled Moderator says

Contact support and give them proof of what happened, e-mail archives, etc etc. I believe they can remove your negative rating. That is total … Honestly now?! For an auto reply to get one star is something out of this world!

I’m sure staff can help!

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CreatingDrew says
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Contact support and give them proof of what happened, e-mail archives, etc etc. I believe they can remove your negative rating. That is total … Honestly now?! For an auto reply to get one star is something out of this world! I’m sure staff can help!

Sorry guys, support/staff cannot help you here. We can’t manually alter anything in the database. This may have happened one or two times in the past but it’s wayyy too risky on marketplaces with this many members to do. Unfortunately, until we revamp the ratings system they are indeed permanent.

However, as I’ve said many times the dev team and staff are aware the rating system needs an overhaul badly and it is in the devs pipeline, along with a LOT of other projects. So patience for now guys, I know it’s frustrating, but the rating system will get looked and worked on at some point in the dev schedule. :)

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CreatingDrew said
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Contact support and give them proof of what happened, e-mail archives, etc etc. I believe they can remove your negative rating. That is total … Honestly now?! For an auto reply to get one star is something out of this world! I’m sure staff can help!

Sorry guys, support/staff cannot help you here. We can’t manually alter anything in the database. This may have happened one or two times in the past but it’s wayyy too risky on marketplaces with this many members to do. Unfortunately, until we revamp the ratings system they are indeed permanent.

However, as I’ve said many times the dev team and staff are aware the rating system needs an overhaul badly and it is in the devs pipeline, along with a LOT of other projects. So patience for now guys, I know it’s frustrating, but the rating system will get looked and worked on at some point in the dev schedule. :)

Sorry for the bad info Drew! I remember it happened once before!

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ZoomIt says

Anyone know the average that you need to get a 5 star rating ? Do you need a 4.5 or above average ? If so, I recommend it rounds to the largest integer, so if you have 4.1 it will get rounded to 5, 3.1 => 4. It’s in anyone’s best interest for the products to have higher ratings.

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sevenspark Moderator says
ZoomIt said
Anyone know the average that you need to get a 5 star rating ? Do you need a 4.5 or above average ? If so, I recommend it rounds to the largest integer, so if you have 4.1 it will get rounded to 5, 3.1 => 4. It’s in anyone’s best interest for the products to have higher ratings.

While as an author I certainly like this idea, I don’t think buyers would see this type of ratings inflation as in their best interest necessarily – that would mean that if a product received 50 3-star ratings and 1 4-star rating, giving them an average of just over 3 but a rating of 4 stars, which should suggest that overall users give this product about 4 stars – but that’s not the case in this example. I think the rating “ranges” have to be divided down the middle of star values (i.e. at .5) in order for them to maintain their relevance to the actual individual ratings.

Not that I would be against the idea, though! :) Just doubt buyers would appreciate it?

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