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ThemeFusion says

Skim reading through 5 pages of posts, is it true that woothemes are getting elite author commission rate as a non-exclusive theme seller?

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WebSmacker says

Hi Collis,

Thanks for being open and honest. The fact that the founder of the company is still actively talking to the community is one of the reasons I stick around. You guys are doing a great job coming up with ways to build the community and increase sales. I love woothemes and I think this partnership will help them become better as well. I’m sure getting rejected a few times will make them take a step back rethink a few things.

I remember when Magento was brought on board and there was an uproar about it. The emotions will soon die down and everyone will get back to doing what they love to do, and that’s build great quality themes that will sell like hotcakes!

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Prothemeus says

Skim reading through 5 pages of posts, is it true that woothemes are getting elite author commission rate as a non-exclusive theme seller?

Yes.

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Dream-Theme says

Skim reading through 5 pages of posts, is it true that woothemes are getting elite author commission rate as a non-exclusive theme seller?

Their commission rate is not public. However, Envato admitted that their rate is not standard 33% as for others non-exclusive authors. Read the full Collis’ post on first page of this thread ;)

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doru says

I remember when Magento was brought on board and there was an uproar about it. The emotions will soon die down and everyone will get back to doing what they love to do, and that’s build great quality themes that will sell like hotcakes!

we already doing what we love to do :)

no emotions here. you make this looks like some sort of teen drama. really funny :)

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Dream-Theme says

I remember when Magento was brought on board and there was an uproar about it. The emotions will soon die down and everyone will get back to doing what they love to do, and that’s build great quality themes that will sell like hotcakes!

No emotions here. Isn’t US the country where respect for freedom and equality are basis of national culture and policy? :)

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WebSmacker says

No emotions here. Isn’t US the country where respect for freedom and equality are basis of national culture and policy? :)

Good point :) I don’t see this as being “equal” or not “equal” though. It’s a business decision that was made to help grow the marketplace. They admitted to making a few mistakes and let’s hope they learn from them :)

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Dream-Theme says


No emotions here. Isn’t US the country where respect for freedom and equality are basis of national culture and policy? :)
Good point :) I don’t see this as being “equal” or not “equal” though. It’s a business decision that was made to help grow the marketplace. They admitted to making a few mistakes and let’s hope they learn from them :)

If you do not mind, I’ll explain. For TF author it is big journey to get 70% commissions and “Elite” badge. “Elites” are getting perks described here: http://elite.envato.com but those are deserved. TF guidelines are same for everyone. Still Woo received unprecedented preferences and got away with violations for which any other author would be permanently banned.

P.S. Please note, that I have nothing against guys from Woo – they are doing great stuff. E.g. our support portal is based on their SupportPress. But their second coming to TF was… “a bit weird” :)

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urbazon says

I’ve followed this topic from its start, but I follow it as a fellow author from other Envato marketplaces and I have to say something as an “outsider”.

I don’t know anything about woothemes and what’s the deal, and I don’t know anything about ThemeForest upload standards, but after reading all these comments I can only come to the following conclusion:
  • Envato added new author to the marketplace to promote a new type of license
  • all items got accepted during the review process, although some of them are of lesser quality
  • mistake is confirmed by the officials (Collis himself) but themes are still up for sale
  • moreover, newly added author enjoys larger, non-standard commission rate, while all the hard-working people here, some of whom contribute to the marketplace(s) maybe even way more than newly added author, had to work their a**es off to achieve the benefits of high commission rates and other.

The only reason for Envato to do such thing is in order to expand the marketplace. Looking from other marketplaces’ perspective, ThemeForest gets the most attention from the officials (and I’m not saying it’s not justified, after all TF is earning the most) but many things are starting to “fall apart” here, bigger review queues (12 days on AudioJungle atm, I hear it’s way less on TF so maybe you don’t know about it), years long lack of better search, and what not, and it all yells “slow down the growth until you patch up some things first”. Keyword here being “slow down” not “stop”.

My 2cents, as a totally non-TF author. And I stand corrected if I’m wrong.

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WebSmacker says

@DreamTheme – I agree it was unfair, and Collis admitted it was unfair the way they handled. Let’s hope it works and brings more people to buy stuff :)

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