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audemedia says

On the Earnings page, Your Total Sales is now just confusing. Until yesterday, it displayed my percentage earnings (57%) and it was easy to understand what you earn. Now, it says that Envato charges me 28.75%, and right now there, by looking at this, you have no chance to calculate how much you are actually earning from each sale. I understand the changes you made, but Earnings page needs to include full information on what author earns, and right now that is not clear.

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nCrafts says

The new fee structure was super confusing at first. Coming here, the only conclusion I draw is that authors will be drawing less money since they won’t get a part of the $2 anymore

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doru says

The handling fee is a change to author earnings, because previously it was split with the author in the same way that the item’s sale was. So let’s say you were a 50-50 author, and you sold a $10 item, but with a $2 handling fee – you would have received $5 + $1. That second part will no longer happen.

a good percentage of files purchased from me were made using the direct purchase (even when it would had made sense to just deposit the money like 20$ item)

this means I will receive less money from sales if I will not receive a share of that 2$ part.

Well it was good while it lasted.

The article you’ve published is very confusing and I have a doubt this was made on purpose.

Maybe a bit more clear would had been great. At this rate I will become a lawyer specialized in corporate language. While I thank you for the training :) maybe I should use my time creating items.

For example simplified what I’ve understood till now for what authors are concerned (correct me if I’m wrong)

    exclusive accounts rate stay the same
    not exclusive start from a lower tier
    direct purchase for items under 10$ cost 1$ more not 2$
    direct purchase of items above $75 have no additional cost
    author will not receive a part form the 1$ and 2$ surcharge
    change had been made in author dashboard to confuse everyone
    99% sure the rate change had been made for tax purposes but I don’t understand what convoluted laws this need to make happy (but probably those exist, we know laws are not made by intelligent people)
    if the above is not true then let say 80% probability that article had been wrote confused to cover the loss of revenue for author that derives from the fact that you can’t get a share of the 2$ price difference

for an elite author 2$ cut is 1.40$

I will take avada item as example.

last week sales 1020

taken my own experience I say 40% of sales are direct purchase

that means 40% of 1020 is 408.

408 multiplied by 1.40$ equals 571$ lost by that particular elite author on this popular item.

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hogash says

@doru ^^ here it’s the page updated http://themeforest.net/make_money/become_an_author and well explained :)

Edit: or here http://d2mdw063ttlqtq.cloudfront.net/resources/rates/envato_author_fee_schedule_(sept_2014).pdf

I actually wondered why we were getting the share from purchase fee, because we authors weren’t handling anything. It was good while it lasted what can i say, but now things are getting more clear and fair i think.

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collis Envato team says

On the Earnings page, Your Total Sales is now just confusing. Until yesterday, it displayed my percentage earnings (57%) and it was easy to understand what you earn. Now, it says that Envato charges me 28.75%, and right now there, by looking at this, you have no chance to calculate how much you are actually earning from each sale. I understand the changes you made, but Earnings page needs to include full information on what author earns, and right now that is not clear.

Good call GDragoN, I’ll have a think with the team on how we can make this page clearer :-( I’m not sure we did the best job there.

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collis Envato team says

With the “Bla-Bla” part I have only tried to explain it doesn’t make any difference for us (as long as we don’t care about the $2 paypal fee, which are not even part of the item’s price)), but for cheaper files it makes sense that authors would be affected (not much IMHO)

8) Totally understood!

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azzaroco says


The handling fee is a change to author earnings, because previously it was split with the author in the same way that the item’s sale was. So let’s say you were a 50-50 author, and you sold a $10 item, but with a $2 handling fee – you would have received $5 + $1. That second part will no longer happen.

a good percentage of files purchased from me were made using the direct purchase (even when it would had made sense to just deposit the money like 20$ item)

this means I will receive less money from sales if I will not receive a share of that 2$ part.

Well it was good while it lasted.

The article you’ve published is very confusing and I have a doubt this was made on purpose.

Maybe a bit more clear would had been great. At this rate I will become a lawyer specialized in corporate language. While I thank you for the training :) maybe I should use my time creating items.

For example simplified what I’ve understood till now for what authors are concerned (correct me if I’m wrong)

    exclusive accounts rate stay the same
    not exclusive start from a lower tier
    direct purchase for items under 10$ cost 1$ more not 2$
    direct purchase of items above $75 have no additional cost
    author will not receive a part form the 1$ and 2$ surcharge
    change had been made in author dashboard to confuse everyone
    99% sure the rate change had been made for tax purposes but I don’t understand what convoluted laws this need to make happy (but probably those exist, we know laws are not made by intelligent people)
    if the above is not true then let say 80% probability that article had been wrote confused to cover the loss of revenue for author that derives from the fact that you can’t get a share of the 2$ price difference

for an elite author 2$ cut is 1.40$

I will take avada item as example.

last week sales 1020

taken my own experience I say 40% of sales are direct purchase

that means 40% of 1020 is 408.

408 multiplied by 1.40$ equals 571$ lost by that particular elite author on this popular item.

+1111

You took my words from my mouth (keyboard) :)

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Dream-Theme says

Hey @collis,
So all this stuff is intricate way to say “we’re taking that $1.50 from you”? :D

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mpc says

I have mixed feelings first of all something that was super simple now is complex. Also I am not sure how this price breakdown will help a buyer in anyway? :O Lastly the only change for us that we are short a $1.40 per ~50% of our sales which for me is around $550 per month.

:(

P.S My stomach starts to hurt when I visit the forums, each week new “great” changes…

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collis Envato team says

For example simplified what I’ve understood till now for what authors are concerned (correct me if I’m wrong)
    exclusive accounts rate stay the same
    not exclusive start from a lower tier
    direct purchase for items under 10$ cost 1$ more not 2$
    direct purchase of items above $75 have no additional cost
    author will not receive a part form the 1$ and 2$ surcharge
    change had been made in author dashboard to confuse everyone
    99% sure the rate change had been made for tax purposes but I don’t understand what convoluted laws this need to make happy (but probably those exist, we know laws are not made by intelligent people)

Hey Doru,

Sorry I worked on that post for ages, really thought I’d done a good job of making it clear – next time will do better!!

That’s broadly right, though I promise the author dashboard wasn’t for the purposes of confusing – I think maybe we just need to do some more work on it.

The changes to fee structure reflect our services to both authors and buyers, and will have lots of impacts, including where taxes apply, what contractual relationships buyers, authors and Envato have, how invoicing flows, and more.


    if the above is not true then let say 80% probability that article had been wrote confused to cover the loss of revenue for author that derives from the fact that you can’t get a share of the 2$ price difference

for an elite author 2$ cut is 1.40$

I will take avada item as example.

last week sales 1020

taken my own experience I say 40% of sales are direct purchase

that means 40% of 1020 is 408.

408 multiplied by 1.40$ equals 571$ lost by that particular elite author on this popular item.

I’m sorry if it came across like it was trying to cover the author revenue loss – not my intention at all. You are correct that when a $2 fee applied, this is a change in author earnings, however the conversion rate of buyers will improve (buyers drop off from seeing the fees) as we reduce and remove it more and more, additionally the price increase which affects to both prepaid and buy now purchases also impacted author earnings, and finally we’ve adjusted non-exclusive rates. Long run, the entire handling fee will be gone, and you can expect to see more experiments and reductions over the coming months.

Thanks Doru!

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