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christopherjon says
You have to bear in mind, in defence of those that adapt templates, that we have to do what the client wants – and there are some pretty awkward clients and those that think a pink and green colour scheme would look great :/
I completely understand this.

I’ve done my fair share of work for clients so I know first hand how that horror story ends. Since when did John Doe Attorney at Law become a graphic artist and design expert?

A FONT OF 14PT AS THE CONTENT FONT !!!! JESUS !!!
Can you also make all of the text bold? And while your at it, I love that comic sans font. :) And I know we picked a theme that doesn’t have a sidebar on the homepage but we’ve decided that we now want a sidebar on the homepage. Also, while at first we really liked the minimalist idea, we kinda want more color on the page now. etc..

Thanks guys, it’s kinda what I expected. It’s not the themes. You guys are money :)

It’s clients with poor taste and not letting the developer do their job or the small group of people who don’t really know what they are doing and are passing themeselves off as web designers.

I’m sure most of you have seen this already, http://theoatmeal.com/comics/design_hell

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JoelBesada says

While on the topic of bad clients, this site always cracks me up: http://clientsfromhell.net/ ;)

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SaurabhSharma says
duotive said
TYPOGRAPHY of the website has ITS PURPOSE and you cannot have A FONT OF 14PT AS THE CONTENT FONT !!!! JESUS !!!

Why not. It’s all about proportion and consistency. How other things are sized. If your main menu is 16px, sub menus with 14px, headings with 30+, and a standard line height of 1.5em (21px in this case), a content font of 14px will look great (with a decently spacious grid). Check twitter promotional pages, tuts+ sites, and our very own Envato site. :)

Readability can not be denied. No doubt, 12px is a standard font size. But 14px and 16px can be used too. :)

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Ivor Envato team says
duotive said
I hate it when people tackle the question on how to increase/decrease the font size on the whole website. TYPOGRAPHY of the website has ITS PURPOSE and you cannot have A FONT OF 14PT AS THE CONTENT FONT !!!! JESUS !!!

Let me tell you this politely sir, you are wrong :) like Saurabh is all about “proportion and consistency” bostonglobe.com’s content text is rocking a beautiful 16pt font — http://cl.ly/ABvo

But I’m with you here, why in the world would one do this?

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This is just a couple of lines for God sake! :D

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christopherjon says
Readability can not be denied. No doubt, 12px is a standard font size. But 14px and 16px can be used too.
I think it’s an outdated standard.

Back when 800×600 or 1024×768 were the typical screen sizes it worked but now we’re in an era where some screens are getting smaller (tablets and phones) while resolutions are getting larger.

I’m using 1400×900 and a lot of web sites have type that is far too small to read comfortably. Small light grey type ( very common with a lot of themes ) looks great but is a nightmare to read for any length of time.

I’ve found with most of my work recently I’m using 13px (80%) as my base font size. On sites that are more text content driven it’s not uncommon to use even larger sizes. I want people reading and not leaving the site with a migraine.

BostonGlobe needs a little more line height on the homepage IMO :)

I wanted to check out another newspaper and I thought usatoday was a typographic nightmare on the homepage (reviewers, don’t approve that theme) but the articles at arial, 14px, 22px line-height was close to perfect. I’d soften-up the #000000 text color something like #242424 but that’s just my crazy taste.

Who else is a typography nerd?

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