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MBMedia says

point: nothing in my reply makes any favorable comment about IE6 , I was not referring to IE6 , my point is that if you do not accommodate me as a web browser using IE7 or even IE8 , then I will probably not visit your site again. IE8 , regardless of any biases, is not an obsoltete browser. my laptop computer is not obsolete just because it is 4-5 years old and will probably be retired only when I cannot replace a broken part.

DDStudios tweeted about this web site: elpassion.pl try looking at this with an IE browser

having worked in the computer business for years, it soon becomes apparent that hardware changes are easier to make and support than software changes. it takes time sometimes for software to catch up to the hardware. the other thing about software is that oftentimes the functions in the new s/w is somewhat different than the old s/w, making for a nice learning curve with each s/w change.

all I want from any browser is to be able to look at your web sites whenever I want to and I want to be able to see them in their full glory if possible. I don’t want someone telling me that I have an obsolete browser (when I am using IE7 /IE8), I won’t pay any attention to your message anyway and you just are annoying me by doing this.

Al

I agree with all this as well.

I drive a car that is powered via vegetable oil, and gas stations that do not come up with a complete supply and dispensing system to accommodate me LOSE MY BUSINESS .

There was a gas station near me that did accommodate this recently, and I MUST have been profitable enough to justify that entire amount of overhead because I got all my vegetable gas there. But last month they stopped, some mumbo jumbo about losing them money. I call BULL on that, because I’m betting that everyone with a vegetable car for miles around got their oil there.

///////// Sorry, can’t even manage to keep up the sarcasm any more :)

This was fun, but the plain fact at that in the real world if you want to be served by businesses then you need to be part of a target audience that is profitable for businesses. And if you put yourself outside of that profitable target audience then you can whine all you want about how they are losing your business and they won’t care.

It’s just business sense that if you put yourself in a situation where you are in an extreme minority audience and cost vastly more to serve then you are no longer profitable, and will not get the opportunity to be served by them. All the talk in the world about software adoption times vs hardware adoption times and “all I want from any browser” isn’t really relevant because you’re taking scientific and personal opinion views on what is essentially a business decision.

I know for a fact that certain aesthetics and interactivity sell better, and I also know for a fact that some ancient browsers do not support many of the techniques I use to accomplish that without extreme added overhead design and programming time.

So if I’m going to have to make a decision about a 2% conversion rate while reaching 95% of internet users vs. a 1% conversion rate while reaching 100% of internet users vs. the progressively enhanced approach of 2% conversion on 95% and 1% conversion on the remaining 5% along with 200% increase in overhead…there are VERY FEW business situations where anything but the first option makes any sense at all. So if you put yourself in that last 5% then I simply don’t care if I lose your business, because I gain more :) And to call that decision “stupid” is in itself ignorant.

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Anjum says

It’s time to stop using IE6

If your organization is still using Internet Explorer 6 on Windows XP, just stop. Stop it now.

The marketplace is filled with credible alternatives to IE6 , including Mozilla Firefox and Google Chrome. If you need to use Internet Explorer because it’s required for compatibility with specific websites or apps, you have alternatives from Microsoft itself. IE6 was replaced with the newer, more secure Internet Explorer 7 in October 2006, more than 40 months ago. And Internet Explorer 8 was released in March of 2009, nearly a year ago. Both browsers have large improvements in usability, including tabbed browsing, but their biggest selling point is security.

Any IT professional who is still allowing IE6 to be used in a corporate setting is guilty of malpractice. Think that judgment is too harsh? Ask the security experts at Google, Adobe, and dozens of other large corporations that are cleaning up the mess from a wave of targeted attacks that allowed source code and confidential data to fall into the hands of well-organized intruders. The entry point? According to Microsoft, it’s IE6 :

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SkatDesign says


point: nothing in my reply makes any favorable comment about IE6 , I was not referring to IE6 , my point is that if you do not accommodate me as a web browser using IE7 or even IE8 , then I will probably not visit your site again. IE8 , regardless of any biases, is not an obsoltete browser. my laptop computer is not obsolete just because it is 4-5 years old and will probably be retired only when I cannot replace a broken part.

DDStudios tweeted about this web site: elpassion.pl try looking at this with an IE browser

having worked in the computer business for years, it soon becomes apparent that hardware changes are easier to make and support than software changes. it takes time sometimes for software to catch up to the hardware. the other thing about software is that oftentimes the functions in the new s/w is somewhat different than the old s/w, making for a nice learning curve with each s/w change.

all I want from any browser is to be able to look at your web sites whenever I want to and I want to be able to see them in their full glory if possible. I don’t want someone telling me that I have an obsolete browser (when I am using IE7 /IE8), I won’t pay any attention to your message anyway and you just are annoying me by doing this.

Al

I agree with all this as well.

I drive a car that is powered via vegetable oil, and gas stations that do not come up with a complete supply and dispensing system to accommodate me LOSE MY BUSINESS .

There was a gas station near me that did accommodate this recently, and I MUST have been profitable enough to justify that entire amount of overhead because I got all my vegetable gas there. But last month they stopped, some mumbo jumbo about losing them money. I call BULL on that, because I’m betting that everyone with a vegetable car for miles around got their oil there.

///////// Sorry, can’t even manage to keep up the sarcasm any more :)

This was fun, but the plain fact at that in the real world if you want to be served by businesses then you need to be part of a target audience that is profitable for businesses. And if you put yourself outside of that profitable target audience then you can whine all you want about how they are losing your business and they won’t care.

It’s just business sense that if you put yourself in a situation where you are in an extreme minority audience and cost vastly more to serve then you are no longer profitable, and will not get the opportunity to be served by them. All the talk in the world about software adoption times vs hardware adoption times and “all I want from any browser” isn’t really relevant because you’re taking scientific and personal opinion views on what is essentially a business decision.

I know for a fact that certain aesthetics and interactivity sell better, and I also know for a fact that some ancient browsers do not support many of the techniques I use to accomplish that without extreme added overhead design and programming time.

So if I’m going to have to make a decision about a 2% conversion rate while reaching 95% of internet users vs. a 1% conversion rate while reaching 100% of internet users vs. the progressively enhanced approach of 2% conversion on 95% and 1% conversion on the remaining 5% along with 200% increase in overhead…there are VERY FEW business situations where anything but the first option makes any sense at all. So if you put yourself in that last 5% then I simply don’t care if I lose your business, because I gain more :) And to call that decision “stupid” is in itself ignorant.

+ ? Is there more to be told about this? No, you’ve said it all.

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