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CodingJack says

I was in 1998 on the NBA Finals my first and last time i saw Jordan but where is Chicago Bulls today?

No Jordan no Bulls(:

He is the greatest of all time. There’s no debate.

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donchev_a says
He is the greatest of all time. There’s no debate. http://tinyurl.com/o9f4sd

yeahhh … thanks for the video. enjoyed it. :)

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CodingJack says

thanks, sorry to hijack your thread. I wonder is more frequent buyers would be tougher on ratings because they may be more experienced and therefore expect more.

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donchev_a says
thanks, sorry to hijack your thread. I wonder is more frequent buyers would be tougher on ratings because they may be more experienced and therefore expect more.

well I really don’t know. Just when I came to work this morning decided to play the smart guy today. (in the reality just an ordinary guy) :D

I think everything is just fine as it is now. But you know a friendly conversation about this and that never hurts. Who knows maybe in between the white lambs a golden one is hidden…

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iamdok says

Hey,

Maybe also the system could encourage buyers to actually rate the file! Its a very simple thing, but I almost have to coax my buyers to vote for my files.I don’t tell them what kind of a vote to give, just simply to rate the thing. I have an item or two with almost 30 purchases and note even any votes!

If your item does not need any problems fixed, then you sometimes don’t even get the chance to coax a buyer to vote! (obviously wouldn’t want to do it so openly in the comments area – well I guess stranger things have happened eh!)

Donagh

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donchev_a says
Hey,

Maybe also the system could encourage buyers to actually rate the file! Its a very simple thing, but I almost have to coax my buyers to vote for my files.I don’t tell them what kind of a vote to give, just simply to rate the thing. I have an item or two with almost 30 purchases and note even any votes!

If your item does not need any problems fixed, then you sometimes don’t even get the chance to coax a buyer to vote! (obviously wouldn’t want to do it so openly in the comments area – well I guess stranger things have happened eh!)

Donagh

good point.

Just dunno how to wrap up my items with a FREE candy (or chocolate for the ladies) in the package so they start voting.

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donchev_a says
That’s funny donchev. You crazy man. I read your post. It made me laugh. But its cool I guess. I gots love fo mah homies. LOL . That’s funny too. Anyway, its one thing to bring the credit score card in when actually purchasing a product. But when you determine the worth of a persons right to express their opinion, you’re drawing a line across a very very touchy issue. Its almost an implication of suppression. You want people to be honest. Not forced to follow guidelines that limits them when saying whether or not that they had a good experience.

I’ll stop arguing with you because I can’t continue. I like you so much. Hope you have wonderful day, dude!

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theflyingtinman says

A weighting system is a good idea, but the criterion for determining a buyer’s rating weigh should not be just number of sales; It should increase with his ability to consistently rate an item “fairly”: ie at, or close to the overall average rating for that item.

For instance: Every new buyer starts with a certain weight attached to his ratings (say “1”) . Every time the buyer rates an item, and his rating reflects the eventual overall average rating for that item, then his rating weight is increased, by, say 5 points, up to a maximum of 100 . If his rating on an item is one star more or less than the average then his weighting does not change. If his rating for an item deviates more than one star either way from the average then his weighting is reduced by an amount proportional to his deviation. Severe deviation should have large penalty in weighting (say -100 points for a maximum deviation eg buyer rates a 5-star item a “1”).

Weighting can go negative, and a rating from a negative (or zero) weighted buyer will have no effect on the average for an item until he has recovered his rating weight to positive value by a history of consistently fair rating.

“Hit and run” voters are effectively neutralized unless they take the trouble to build up a high weighting with a history of fair rating before zapping a file ( time consuming since maximum increase per item is kept very small compared to maximum potential decrease )

This is not my own idea. It is based on the “karma” system used on worth1000.com for vote weighting in the various competitions they run on that site and it works really well.

On Envato, badges could be awarded for member rating weight, which would not only encourage fair rating but would also encourage rating by buyers who do not normal bother to rate the items they buy.

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donchev_a says

On Envato, badges could be awarded for member rating weight, which would not only encourage fair rating but would also encourage rating by buyers who do not normal bother to rate the items they buy.

wow man. thanks. I love it!!! this is what I was thinking about – the weight.

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theflyingtinman says
Why? Then the whole point of rating a specific rating would be altered just because of the system.

I am not sure what that means.

I think the way it is now is more accurate.

It is only accurate if it is meant to reflect subjective opinions ..which is not what I want to see when I look at an items rating. I want to see a reasonably object evaluation of the product, which can not be more accurately calculated in a system that weights subjective opinions (or malicious under-rating, or buddy solicited over-rating) as highly as objective evaluations – which will generally fall within a certain deviation of the average rating ( I forgot to mention that the W1K system also has a voter guideline – which helps voters vote objectively; we could draw up a rating guideline for buyers)

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