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JohnnyOhmz says

Hello Envato family. I just thought of something and I figured it would be best to ask here before taking any action.

I’m currently flipping wp sites in my local area for small/local businesses. I would like to know if I can take screen shots of peoples themes and put them in my portfolio. Only screen shots. This way if someone see’s a portfolio site for example, and they want it, I could then come to TF, buy the theme from the author, and make it for the client and everyone wins.

I think this is a good idea, but I’m sure I’m not the first person that’s thought of this. I do fully respect this community and wouldn’t do something like this before I get the go ahead from authors in the community, and Envato themselves. Because it’s only a screen shot, I figure, theres nothing to lose, and if anything it’s a way to promote sales.

Any feedback about this would be great. Thank you all.

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PixelBin says

Why not a link to the theme?

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JohnnyOhmz says

Because I don’t want to miss out on possible clients to people that think they can do it themselves lol. I always tell people that I’m using themes, and they always raise their eyebrow. I feel like if I’m not there to hold their hand in explaining to them why using themes is a great choice, then they’ll feel like they’re getting ripped off. I’m currently charging $300 to “make” a site for someone. Minus the cost of the theme and minus the cost of my hosting… So, I’m only making around 200-240. I think that’s more then fair for this. I’m not trying to rip anyone off. I’m just trying to get more work. I need something to hold me over for a little while until I can become an author here one day myself. But right now, every day is a struggle.

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JohnnyOhmz says

Why not a link to the theme?

Actually, if I comb through TF and find a few nice themes that are fully fleshed and don’t have the “Buy this theme” link on them, I wouldn’t mind doing that if it’s allowed. Like I said, I’m just trying not to step on anyone’s toes here, and would like to make sure that I’m going about this the right way. :-)

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infuse01 says

Can’t speak for others but for myself. If you want go ahead and use preview-images. descriptions, details from my items (altough I currently only have 1). But I would like to have a link to your website to see if your “implementation” is on line with my imagination.

Oh and btw: 300$ is by far too less. I mean, I don’t know how good you are but even if you’re a beginner your time is worth something.
You should consider to make everything by the hour – with maybe 20$/hour (and this is still really cheap). So if you need about 20 hours for “making” a website you would get minimum 400$. THAT is fair (still unfair, but more fair then what you do now).

As long as you don’t change something in your price philosophy you’ll struggle every day. All you need is to learn how to handle customers, debate with them and “sell” them something. Tell them that a professional looking, custom website costs them about 4000$+, but you can save them a lot of bucks and do it for around 800$. THAT is a win/win. Just my opinion…

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JohnnyOhmz says

@infuse01 Thanks for the advice. I’m just moved back to Louisiana, and people around here have no idea why they need a web site. I know that’s where I come in. I would charge more but here’s what I noticed my problem was. ...

Person: I need a website that shows off my work.

Me: I can do that.

Person: How much?

...Do some discovery...

Me: For something that size, $800

Person: Do you have anything you can show me?

.....This is the point where things fall part...

Me: Well, I’m still building up my portfolio, and I don’t really have anything to show right now.

Person: ..........

/end

I have went to school for web design & development. But I had to drop recently due to finical issues. So, I know my way around some code, and I’m not afraid to get my hands dirty to make something work for someone.

I just figured that because no one knows who I am (I’ve been gone for over 10 years, so no contacts, no leads), and I have no portfolio, no one will want to pay me anything. So I dropped down to $300 for now until I can start getting some sites listed in my portfolio. Then it hit me! “I wonder if the TF guys would mind if I use a few images (or links) to promote myself?” This way, I can find costumers faster, and hopefully start charging more, and I would be buying far more TF files… so, I thought it was win/win. I’m sure there are other people doing this, but I’ve been around TF long enough to know, “Don’t piss off the authors!” lol You guys are the freaking magic makers as far as I’m concerned.

But all jokes aside, I’ll send you my personal info infuse01. Thanks guys. Anyone else, please feel free to chime in.

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designova says

Can’t speak for others but for myself. If you want go ahead and use preview-images. descriptions, details from my items (altough I currently only have 1). But I would like to have a link to your website to see if your “implementation” is on line with my imagination.

Oh and btw: 300$ is by far too less. I mean, I don’t know how good you are but even if you’re a beginner your time is worth something.
You should consider to make everything by the hour – with maybe 20$/hour (and this is still really cheap). So if you need about 20 hours for “making” a website you would get minimum 400$. THAT is fair (still unfair, but more fair then what you do now).

As long as you don’t change something in your price philosophy you’ll struggle every day. All you need is to learn how to handle customers, debate with them and “sell” them something. Tell them that a professional looking, custom website costs them about 4000$+, but you can save them a lot of bucks and do it for around 800$. THAT is a win/win. Just my opinion…

+1, Well said.

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greenshady says

I’d think any author here would be okay with what you’re proposing. That’s just more business for us.

With that said, you’re more than welcome to use screenshots of my themes (free or commercial) for use in your portfolio to show potential clients.

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ChillThemes says

You can use screenshots of any of my items.

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themelux says

I think it’s going to be an author by author basis, only because it’s at their own discretion.

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