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ThemeFusion says

@bitfade, I 100% agree with you. I am very worried about my buyers and the support headache that will come with it.

These changes overall do make a better product but for existing themes FOR any author / buyer will just be a huge headache.

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jegtheme says

Ask authors? Nice joke This whole standard requirements thing is ruining creativity and you’ll need to create the same generic bullsh*t that fits well in all the themes.

I’m so much on you. this requirement will force us as author to build BLOG themes with no creativity, or other feature that can be exposed. its just nightmare.

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Japh Envato team says

Do you expect that forcing authors to move features from theme to bespoke plugins will allow end users to switch from this to this seamlessy ?

More likely, each theme will include its own set of custom plugins that would need to be mandatory installed to replicate the demo and to mix them with previous themes custom plugins will lead to anything but a seamless experience for buyers and authors.

Who’s going to deal with raging buyers when everything will break horribly (because it will) ? Who’s going to bear the burden of support ? old theme author ? new one ? you think buyers will accept “we can only support our own theme/plugins when used together” kind of answer ?

Who asked for this changes ? buyers ? I doubt so, having dealt with thousands of them myself and not yet having found one who cares about the issues you’re trying to address with these new rules.

You make some interesting points, and we’ll definitely be discussing them.


You’re trying to enforce wp.org rules on TF when TF products are anything like wp.org ones.

Interesting distinction you make. Do you believe your customers will only use a ThemeForest theme and its bundled plugins, without any plugins from wp.org? And that plugins bought from CodeCanyon will only be used with ThemeForest themes, and not themes from wp.org?

Shouldn’t they all play as nicely together as possible?

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Japh Envato team says

this requirement will force us as author to build BLOG themes with no creativity, or other feature that can be exposed. its just nightmare.

I’m really sorry that you feel this way, because realistically, that’s not at all the case.

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pixedelic says


Ask authors? Nice joke This whole standard requirements thing is ruining creativity and you’ll need to create the same generic bullsh*t that fits well in all the themes.
I’m so much on you. this requirement will force us as author to build BLOG themes with no creativity, or other feature that can be exposed. its just nightmare.

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ThemeFusion says

@Japh

1. Someone asked about page builder and you know how it works – what is your stance on that?

2. Have you all thought of how this will impact existing themes and their support? This can be a big impact on how a theme works, and because of that it will be an absolute nightmare for users and us who support them. The frustration that will come of it from buyers who have been using it will be very high.

3. What about current updates that we may be working on. For example, we are working on a very big update that is nearing completion and thousands of our users are expecting it. With these new standards, will it now not be accepted? Weeks and weeks of work down the drain if not, aside from very upset users which lead to bad ratings and impacts sales. Is it possible to accept this new update in the next few weeks, then allow us to make the required changes for the next one?

Thanks for your time!

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THBThemes says

There’s one distinction to be made here: WP.org plugins are public, available to anyone, anywhere and essentially optional. You can choose to use them, or ignore them as you please. This is the essence of a plugin, which cannot be a requirement.

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kriskorn says

Interesting distinction you make. Do you believe your customers will only use a ThemeForest theme and its bundled plugins, without any plugins from wp.org? And that plugins bought from CodeCanyon will only be used with ThemeForest themes, and not themes from wp.org? Shouldn’t they all play as nicely together as possible?

This is like looking for world peace…
Everyone will start modifying the plugins heavily and this will cause a real nightmare.

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lollum says

@Japh Someone asked about page builder and you know how it works – what is your stance on that?

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ThemeFocus says


“Inadmissible shortcodes” will not be allowed in “shortcode” plugins If that’s true do you know how buyers will react?

That’s not what we said, so let’s assume it’s not what we meant ;)

These will be inadmissible in the theme. Shortcodes should be in plugins, not the theme itself, as much as possible.

Means theme will can’t allowed includes any shortcodes? Theme author will create a plugin with his shortcode?

Thanks.

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