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M-Theme says


The user can pay a freelancer to modify the css and get the look he wants. It CAN be done if the shortcodes are in a plugin, with shortcodes put into the theme it can’t. It is better to have generic looking shortcodes than [shortcode] tags all over the place.
they won’t. Instead, they will ask theme author why the output looks completely different and/or breaks horribly the new theme layout and demand a fix.

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Parallelus says

Customers are really going to love having 15 different CSS files and 25 JavaScript files loading on their site due to all the theme functions being ported to plugins.

The idea of enforcing standards like this is good, but don’t you think it would make more sense to develop and implement these over time instead of all at once. There are so many unintended things that will result from these changes.

How is a contact form not a part of the theme? It should be no problem to have shortcodes for this. It’s not like a button or drop cap that sites go littering across their pages and becoming an upkeep problem. What’s the reasoning on this one?

I think there are good intentions here but they conflict with the marketplace as you’ve allowed it to become what it is today. Maybe a much more spread out time frame on the changes with dates when they will go into effect will not make it such a big deal for us to adapt, but instead it’s sprung on us like this with a 3 week grace period, like that’s any help at all? You might as well implement these tomorrow with such a short timeframe. These need to be put into effect over MONTHS to give us time to adapt the frameworks we’ve spent years building.

That article has 25+ votes and zero stars for being ‘helpful’ which tells you what authors really think. Standards are good, but back them up and make changes slowly is all I would suggest.

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DistinctiveThemes says

hey guys – i just need a little clarification on something, can anyone help?

basically, the theme iv just released here uses shortcodes to allow for a lot of flexibility, this was not my original choice but the reviewer basically said my original framework was not flexible enough

now seeing as if im essentially forced to use shortcodes (which i honestly dont mind at all) do these new rules mean im going to have to separate these shortcodes from the theme altogether?

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Siddharth Envato team says

Maybe a much more spread out time frame on the changes with dates when they will go into effect will not make it such a big deal for us to adapt, but instead it’s sprung on us like this with a 3 week grace period, like that’s any help at all? You might as well implement these tomorrow with such a short timeframe. These need to be put into effect over MONTHS to give us time to adapt the frameworks we’ve spent years building.
The new requirements will be enforced only for new submissions after the three week grace period. Existing themes are encouraged to follow them but not required.

Existing themes will have a much longer grace period starting at a later date in order to get authors acquainted with the new guidelines.

We’ll be here to help authors through any particular pain points during the transition.

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EugeneO says


Moving towards a plugin centric is a good idea however for it to work I think we will also need some standardized plugins for the common theme features. Otherwise, we are going to end up with 1000 different shortcode plugins, 1000 different portfolio plugins, etc which is going to make things just as complicated. I know this was something that was suggested a while back but I don’t know how far the idea progressed.
That’s not good. Maybe one uses bootstrap for all their themes, maybe another uses skeleton, limiting the authors to certain plugins is like limiting clients from modifying the themes they buy
If the common shortcodes and features aren’t standardized to a select few plugins then your just substituting one version of a problem for another.
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Parallelus says


Maybe a much more spread out time frame on the changes with dates when they will go into effect will not make it such a big deal for us to adapt, but instead it’s sprung on us like this with a 3 week grace period, like that’s any help at all? You might as well implement these tomorrow with such a short timeframe. These need to be put into effect over MONTHS to give us time to adapt the frameworks we’ve spent years building.
The new requirements will be enforced only for new submissions after the three week grace period. Existing themes are encouraged to follow them but not required.

Existing themes will have a much longer grace period starting at a later date in order to get authors acquainted with the new guidelines.

We’ll be here to help authors through any particular pain points during the transition.

Yeah, I understand. But like a lot of authors here I spent years developing a custom framework for my themes. It’s not like we can adapt all that integrated functionality into a bunch of standalone plugins overnight. These things take time. Just ask the guys that did the Options Framework. We waited forever on that, because these things are extremely time consuming and expensive.

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FinalDestiny says

What about custom post types? Obviously using custom post types within the theme will make the custom posts go away when the user switches to another theme, we need to add the custom post types in plugins as well?

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M-Theme says

Hi, review team!

Just want to make sure that is the final requirements?

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M-Theme says

In the part year, I think a Professional Theme is a plugin also. But now we need to split a theme to some plugins. But does it the users need?

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UXbarn says

I’m not sure I understand it correctly about having shortcodes in the theme. Does the new rule mean we couldn’t include built-in shortcodes and shipped with the theme anymore?

If yes, I’m wondering what if the plugins out there don’t have the specific features for the theme? Let’s say the unique portfolio list with some specific features. How do we handle this if we are not allowed to have shortcodes with that functionality included in the theme?

Anyway, I like the idea of making it standardized. But, personally I think shortcodes are still needed to be included with the theme, unless Envato or someone releases a very standard plugin which has standard framework and include all possible standard shortcodes for every author to build their works on top. Then everything here will have the same standard for shortcode usage…

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