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Gae47 says

Although I’m the first to admit that I don’t have the most up to date system, it works well for me most of the time. The rest of the time, it has some annoying habits. I’m using Sonar with Miroslav Philharmonik as my main VST and Saffron to load SF2 soundfonts.

Here are the various glitches that I experience on a regular basis…

1) When working in Staff View, when I stop the music I often get a residual image of the notes i.e. a double image on the screen. The only way to get rid of them is to click the screen and restore back to just the one group of notes.

2) Quite often, the notes start doubling their lengths within the mix. So where I have a minim written into the score, it starts playing for 3 or 4 beats. Adjusting various effects like delay or reverb doesn’t have any effect.

3) Often, instruments loaded in the Miroslav Philharmonik VST interface stop sounding and I have to re-load them. Really annoying if you’ve spent some time editing the sound.

4) The Saffron VST is preset with a ridiculous amount of reverb that sustains for several seconds if left unchecked.

5) When using the Saffron VST, often, after dragging a note in staff view, the sound plays and gets stuck. The only way to restore it is to close Sonar and open the project again. Clicking the panic button only resets every instrument to a default 127 audio levels..a no-no when you’ve spent ages adjusting the balance of the mix.

So these are annoying little glitches that I get regularly in my projects. They are annoying for sure, but I try to work around them the best I can. There may be some solutions that I am not aware of though. If anyone has any ideas I’d appreciate it.

So does anyone else experience regular glitches in their DAWs?

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RFPML says

Yes, it was intolerable to work with such failures. It is necessary to check the hardware, operating system, and their compliance with Sonar. So, i advise to try another daw, for example Reaper.

Of course, it will take some time … But nerves are more expensive.

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MichalskiMusic says

I’m using Sonar with Miroslav Philharmonik as my main VST and Saffron to load SF2 soundfonts.

What version of Sonar are you using?

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Gae47 says


I’m using Sonar with Miroslav Philharmonik as my main VST and Saffron to load SF2 soundfonts.
What version of Sonar are you using?

Sonar 6 producer edition on Win XP!! :bashful:

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MichalskiMusic says



I’m using Sonar with Miroslav Philharmonik as my main VST and Saffron to load SF2 soundfonts.
What version of Sonar are you using?
Sonar 6 producer edition on Win XP!! :bashful:

Well, that explains a lot of the issues. That is 5 versions back from the current version! I never used Sonar 6 as I went from 5 to 8 when I finally upgraded. But I have purchased every upgrade X1 through X3 because they get more stable with each release. X3 runs very smooth for me. Pro Channel effects are quite good and are built in, for the most part.

Perhaps the issue is just that your rig is falling behind in terms of performance and it is time to consider upgrading? You DAW alone is seven years old, if I remember correctly. There have been a lot of improvement made in that seven years.

Best wishes and I hope you get it all worked out. It really is a pain to have to deal with anomalies.

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Krank-Audio says

I do not want to steer this away from your original issue, but my 2 cents is… if you are going to upgrade check out logic… I’m on Logic 9, still has issues but its pretty solid.

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Gae47 says




I’m using Sonar with Miroslav Philharmonik as my main VST and Saffron to load SF2 soundfonts.
What version of Sonar are you using?
Sonar 6 producer edition on Win XP!! :bashful:

Well, that explains a lot of the issues. That is 5 versions back from the current version! I never used Sonar 6 as I went from 5 to 8 when I finally upgraded. But I have purchased every upgrade X1 through X3 because they get more stable with each release. X3 runs very smooth for me. Pro Channel effects are quite good and are built in, for the most part.

Perhaps the issue is just that your rig is falling behind in terms of performance and it is time to consider upgrading? You DAW alone is seven years old, if I remember correctly. There have been a lot of improvement made in that seven years.

Best wishes and I hope you get it all worked out. It really is a pain to have to deal with anomalies.

Cheers.

It’s a bit of a catch22 situation for me at the moment but being just a humble self employed Piano Teacher, I can’t justify an expensive upgrade just yet.

The anomalies are annoying for sure, but I will just have to put up with them as this really is just a bit of an extra income hobby for me at the moment!! I’m not quite ready to take any big financial plunge just yet. Not until I can see that there will be some financial remuneration involved. Also, I’m a bit older than most here and it takes me ages to learn to use a new system and/or software. Anomalies aside, I am at least used to my setup and can work quite fast with it. :)

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MichalskiMusic says

It’s a bit of a catch22 situation for me at the moment but being just a humble self employed Piano Teacher, I can’t justify an expensive upgrade just yet.

I suspected as much. I was in that same position between versions 5 and 8. Just couldn’t justify it. Good to hear that you are able to find workarounds most of the time. There were definitely some frustrations with Sonar with the versions before X1.

Here’s hoping your little hobby turns enough profit to allow you to upgrade in the near future!

Michael

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RobertBlueMusic says

Can be the latency of your audio device:

“If the buffers are too small and the data runs out before Windows can get back to top them up (playback) or empty them (recording) you’ll get a gap in the audio stream that sounds like a click or pop in the waveform and is often referred to as a ‘glitch’. If the buffers are far too small, these glitches occur more often, firstly giving rise to occasional crackles and eventually to almost continuous interruptions that sound like distortion as the audio starts to break up regularly…...... Making the buffers a lot bigger immediately solves the vast majority of problems with clicks and pops, but has an unfortunate side effect: any change that you make to the audio from your audio software doesn’t take effect until the next buffer is accessed. This is latency, and is most obvious in two situations: when playing a soft synth or soft sampler in ‘real time’, or when recording a performance…..... So what’s the best buffer size for your system? This isn’t straightforward to answer. If you mainly play soft synths and soft samplers, or you’re recording electric guitar, a 6ms ASIO or WDM/KS latency (256 samples at 44.1kHz) is probably low enough to be unnoticeable, and won’t increase your CPU overhead too much. However, if you’re one of the many musicians who don’t notice a 12ms latency, adopting a 512-sample buffer size at 44.1kHz will probably allow you more simultaneous notes and plug-ins.”

http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/jan05/articles/pcmusician.htm

check your latency :)

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Gae47 says

Robert, no it’s not a latency issue as I am not doing live recording with it. I compose all my music on a separate piano/keyboard/midi setup and then transfer the Sonar project over to work on the mixing using just mouse and keyboard. :)

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