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chrismccoy says
ParkerAndKent said
chrismccoy said
noticed truethemes only has 3 items on envato and over $250,000 from those 3 items. pretty impressive to say.

I was reading an interesting post by a buyer a couple of days ago… he was basically confirming that he bought a theme because everybody was buying it. With many thausands of sales he thought it was the best of the best, following the simple rule that if everybody buy something is probably the best thing to buy… but he was disappointed by his purchase.

This message probably revealed one of most crucial factor of success of some themes on TF.

If you make 150 sales or more the first week, you will probably make more than 3000 sales in a few months or also more than that (and so you can reach the plutonium paw also with 1 theme)... this also explains why when an author try to imitate a super succesful theme, making it also clearly better than the original, in most of the cases it won’t have the same success like the original, unless he succeed to make outstanding sales the first week.

This revelation is also useful for buyers. The number of sales isn’t always a factor of extreme quality. Probably in the marketplace there is a theme with 10 sales that is way better than 1 with 5000. The only difference is that nobody knows that :)

This is crazy, for both authors and buyers :)

When we publish a theme is like a bet at the casino, you can lose everything or win the jackpot, without a specific or clear reason/rule… it’s matter of luck, timing and who knows what else.

so true ;)

great reply

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KiaJavid says
ParkerAndKent said
chrismccoy said
noticed truethemes only has 3 items on envato and over $250,000 from those 3 items. pretty impressive to say.

I was reading an interesting post by a buyer a couple of days ago… he was basically confirming that he bought a theme because everybody was buying it. With many thausands of sales he thought it was the best of the best, following the simple rule that if everybody buy something is probably the best thing to buy… but he was disappointed by his purchase.

This message probably revealed one of most crucial factor of success of some themes on TF.

If you make 150 sales or more the first week, you will probably make more than 3000 sales in a few months or also more than that (and so you can reach the plutonium paw also with 1 theme)... this also explains why when an author try to imitate a super succesful theme, making it also clearly better than the original, in most of the cases it won’t have the same success like the original, unless he succeed to make outstanding sales the first week.

This revelation is also useful for buyers. The number of sales isn’t always a factor of extreme quality. Probably in the marketplace there is a theme with 10 sales that is way better than 1 with 5000. The only difference is that nobody knows that :)

This is crazy, for both authors and buyers :)

When we publish a theme is like a bet at the casino, you can lose everything or win the jackpot, without a specific or clear reason/rule… it’s matter of luck, timing and who knows what else.

+1 True words. Couldn’t say it better!

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theMOLITOR says
ParkerAndKent said
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+1

Also, keep in mind that some authors (like truethemes – I think – and myself) delete past files that did relatively well but stopped performing.

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ThemeProvince says

Oh god! No Landon please don’t!

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ParkerAndKent says
themolitor said
ParkerAndKent said
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+1

Also, keep in mind that some authors (like truethemes – I think – and myself) delete past files that did relatively well but stopped performing.

Sure, but for example kaptinlin with the Striking theme only, made the plutonium… so we have some extraordinary examples of success with 1 theme only.

Then, his new theme is selling quite normal (and it offers the same quality/fetures ratio of Striking)... so this confirms the randomness of TF sales.

How many of you were sure that the new theme of kaptinlin was going to break new records?

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crozer says
ParkerAndKent said
themolitor said
ParkerAndKent said
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+1

Also, keep in mind that some authors (like truethemes – I think – and myself) delete past files that did relatively well but stopped performing.

Sure, but for example kaptinlin with the Striking theme only, made the plutonium… so we have some extraordinary examples of success with 1 theme only.

Then, his new theme is selling quite normal (and it offers the same quality/fetures ratio of Striking)... so this confirms the randomness of TF sales.

How many of you were sure that the new theme of kaptinlin was going to break new records?

I don’t mean to be rude, but his last theme is a stone-cold 90% features and 10% design. That theme got accepted merely for the fact that his previous theme had such success – if he would have been a new user, I am pretty sure that theme wouldn’t have get past the reviewing process.

And, regarding your previous reply, I totally agree – hands down.

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ParkerAndKent says
crozer said
ParkerAndKent said
themolitor said
ParkerAndKent said
[...]

+1

Also, keep in mind that some authors (like truethemes – I think – and myself) delete past files that did relatively well but stopped performing.

Sure, but for example kaptinlin with the Striking theme only, made the plutonium… so we have some extraordinary examples of success with 1 theme only.

Then, his new theme is selling quite normal (and it offers the same quality/fetures ratio of Striking)... so this confirms the randomness of TF sales.

How many of you were sure that the new theme of kaptinlin was going to break new records?

I don’t mean to be rude, but his last theme is a stone-cold 90% features and 10% design. That theme got accepted merely for the fact that his previous theme had such success – if he would have been a new user, I am pretty sure that theme wouldn’t have get past the reviewing process.

And, regarding your previous reply, I totally agree – hands down.

Well, I don’t wanna judge his work… before the publication, so without knowing what he was working on, I was kinda sure that his new coming theme would have made as well or better than striking… I mean after all those sales I though that many of his buyers would have purchased also his new product. Obviously that didn’t happen, so each theme lives its own life.

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duotive says

@ParkerAndKent – i have to disagree, we made 150 sales in the first week or more and did not get 3000+ sales…

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CLINE123 says
ParkerAndKent said
chrismccoy said
noticed truethemes only has 3 items on envato and over $250,000 from those 3 items. pretty impressive to say.

I was reading an interesting post by a buyer a couple of days ago… he was basically confirming that he bought a theme because everybody was buying it. With many thausands of sales he thought it was the best of the best, following the simple rule that if everybody buy something is probably the best thing to buy… but he was disappointed by his purchase…

...When we publish a theme is like a bet at the casino, you can lose everything or win the jackpot, without a specific or clear reason/rule… it’s matter of luck, timing and who knows what else.

I’m compelled to post this one time for a while for what it’s worth. ParketAndKent is right, there is no rhyme or reason for many themes that get stellar sales and it’s true that there are many great themes on TF that won’t see the light of day to both the detriment of the authors and buyers.

The scenario is this:

A new theme is released and all buyers, including myself, quickly pounce, previewing like it’s a Christmas gift in anticipation, ready to buy (if I’m looking for something right away for a client) or ready to shortlist (for a client to choose from maybe 5 themes I recommend) or ready to bookmark (it has to be exceptional as many themes are so similar and not worth crowding bookmark folder).

I’ll never by a theme from an unknown author if the theme is just great, it has to be exceptional (in my view) a good example for me is the Startex theme by AlanArmanov which I bought right away. If it’s great, then I monitor it’s sales from when was released- poor sales = a few more ‘second’ looks and then out of sight and out of mind…UNLESS: poor sales with 4 stars and good comments/solutions- I either buy or bookmark.

If I like a theme, an established or elite author gets my sale regardless of how poor it is selling as I view my risks as negligible.

Now the ‘herd’ mentality- this is a problem as the theme is self sustaining for no apparent reason except prior sales but I always look at the RATINGS AND THE COMMENTS to decide.

Bottom line:
  • A proper rating and review system
  • A better way to feature good but poor selling themes a while after they get pushed back behind the newer themes (maybe at a reduced price)
  • A better way to give brand new authors a more fighting chance among the heavyweights as I’m hesitant to take a chance

BOTTOM BOTTOM LINE :

A BETTER RATING /REVIEW SYSTEM

That’s my 2 cents.

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