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QwibbleDesigns says

So I’m designing an admin interface that is flexible, and image light. For aesthetics, its css3 heavy.

Although the majority of website admins use modern browsers, what IE alternatives do you have? Is there much in the way of JQuery css3 support for :-

Rounded corners Drop Shadow Inner Shadow CSS Gradients

Is there even a Jquery package out there that can translate all css3 elements for older browsers? What do you have? I’d be extremely interested to see because its something I’m going to tackle soon.

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theGoose12 says
You all misunderstood my statement.

Hey blazedd, I think what people are saying is that CSS3 use is a visual extra and relying on it to make websites look cool is not bad, the user experience can still be great for IE users, they may just have square corners and and loose some cool shading.

..you can’t do EVERYTHING CSS 3 provides with even jquery. I am just seeing an over-reliance on the end user to have a CSS3 browser.

If you start loading up a site with js hacks and images to get cool visual effects and looks so the a site looks the same in IE you may start to hurt load time and the user experience. Websites are not about looking the same in every browser we need to make them look the best we can with out hurting the users experience.

So I think I am hearing you, but I am just saying your perspective is different then mine. An IE user not seeing rounded corners does not hurt them.

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tigerlabs says

I disagree.

As developers we must push new technologies and web standards.

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Meshach says

Were you blazed when you started this topic? :P

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blazedd says
Were you blazed when you started this topic? :P

Thanks for being an asshat, this is a debate about CSS 3 .

You don’t have to use javascript to accomplish all miracles. Everyone here is just franticly yelling at me about CSS 3 elements. I know, and agree that IE doesn’t need rounded buttons as a huge issue. If you people would read the post rather than assume I am against it due to the title of the post. I agree new technologies should be pushed, but then again IE 6 is just starting to fade (as seeing what good pushing does, as clients still want support).

I just see an over-reliance in a technology that isn’t even close to a standard yet. There are almost 3 different CSS3 versions to accomplish one task, that is really standard right?

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Meshach says

A debate over CSS3 ? Is that a joke.

Just cool it.

Why don’t you go back to using your beloved IE6 .

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blazedd says

Once again you are trolling. Why are you so offensive? I have said nothing to provoke you. Way to use some maturity. I am simply posting a discussion and you have nothing better to do than just flame.

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segen says

Why should we support IE while using CSS3 ? The point is, if you’re using some cool CSS3 stuff then Safari and Web-kit users will have enhanced user experience. Other non Web-kit users will have, well, what’s left, a standard website.

We should not hack around different browsers, instead we should design around them, said uncle Malarkey once and you all should listen.

Over and out.

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Meshach says
Once again you are trolling. Why are you so offensive? I have said nothing to provoke you. Way to use some maturity. I am simply posting a discussion and you have nothing better to do than just flame.

You are the one that keeps using bold and caps and forcefully trying to get your point across.

We understand what you are getting at (well, I do at least), and disagree.

Also the ‘blazed’ comment was a joke. (Notice the ”:P” smiley).

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WouterToering says

I love CSS3 , I hate IE and I hate Opera. Although IE9 might (read: They promise it, but they will probably drop it anyway) support it and Opera 11.0 is going to support it, they have no excuse why they haven’t been supporting it the last 2 or 3 years.

It’s time Browser developers start listening to the webdevelopers.

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