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transcriptase says

I’m new to the site, I have been looking at many of the themes on TF.. how come so many of them don’t properly degrade in older browsers (IE8 even) and with JavaScript off? So many I’ve seen will have the jquery slider images covering the entire page, div’s randomly positioned all over the page, and stuff that just plain doesn’t work. Don’t designers worry about stuff like this usually?

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VagrantRadio says

Themes should be made to work without JavaScript and even better with JavaScript, not depend on it to function.

I’ll admit to not making things degrade completely once in a while, but honestly isn’t it kind of expected with everything you can do with JavaScript these days? It’s kind of like turning off CSS and expecting the theme you are browsing to look as good as it does with CSS turned on.

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celtathemes says

In my opinion, javascript MUST be on nowadays.

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CreativeMilk says
In my opinion, javascript MUST be on nowadays.

i agree why should you turn javascript off? almost 70% the site have js in it.

Javascript is the future ;)

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FRESHFACE says

I dont personally know anybody who turns the javascript off. only occasionaly for visiting those exotic full of viruses p* sites. otherwise there is really no point in turning that thing off. newbies dont know how to turn it off (they dont even know what it is – hello my love) and pros dont turn it off at all…

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Biggish says
Simple example, why JavaScript is disabled sometimes (always):
  • The most popular browser – Firefox
  • One of the most popular plug-ins for FF – NoScript
  • Until the domain is not in the “white list” – scripts are disabled

Internet is dangerous, especially in our days. :)

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Warll says

I use noscript and I don’t see a problem with sites breaking catastrophically due to no JS. What is annoying is when a site silently dies.

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StockholmThemes says

My priority is for the website to look “perfect” in the latest versions of Safari, Firefox, Chrome and Explorer. Beyond that, I will do the easy things (IE PNG fix for instance), but I will not bend over backwords and come up with advanced hacks for older browsers. I think it’s critical that the content of a website can always be accessed, regardless of browser, but that’s pretty much guaranteed unless you rely on some very specialised scripting for the navigation.

Someone who uses a very old browser, or has javascript categorically turned off, should be very used to seeing things break on the web, that’s simply the way it works. By not actively doing anything about this, they essentially say that they are fine with this. Essentially I don’t bother if it’s a matter of ignorance or spite. It’s not difficult to upgrade to a modern browser, it doesn’t cost anything, etc. The only limitations are if your computer is very old or you use some type of other limited device, such as a simple mobile phone. But then you must also accept that the experience is not going to be perfect in aesthetics or functionality.

What I think is most important is to make sure the website is accessible to those who simply have no choice – the blind for instance. Which, again, should be a given as long as you use semantic markup and only moderate amounts of scripting. If it’s not, you probably have the whole wrong approach to making websites.

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Fuel99 says

I think you should try to deliver the best compatibility, this often means also for non .js users. Although living in the year 2010 Javascript is everywhere and will continue to be.

Kinda like the IE6 issues, topics etcetera..

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