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dnp_theme says

I had many clients so far and most of them customized the

Designed by dnp_theme

to

Designed by username

I always advise my clients that they loose credibility if they change to

Designed by username

and also does not sound good designed by somebody else for a template bought from Themeforest isn’t it?

I know I am the copyright owner of my templates/themes. BUT what is the extended license for? Isn’t it for this kind of stuff? What is your input on this?

Thanks,
Danny

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Enabled Moderator says

In my humble opinion, people like to have THEIR possessions tagged :) Like all of us do! :)

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digitalimpact says

Read the licensing terms.

An extended license lets you use an item in something that will be sold. For example, you could use an item purchased under an extended license in a DVD release for sale, in a game for sale, or on a t-shirt or poster for sale. An extended license is also appropriate for people looking to offer a web template to many users such as on multiple domains, subdomains or sub directories.

They bought your item with a regular license, they can do what they want with it, except for the above. Well, almost anything, but nothing legally stops a buyer changing the attribution, as unfair as it it.

I’d say don’t bother with this kind of stuff :)

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shaki says

TF market place is used by hundreds of anonymous users that buy the themes for 37$ a pop and sell them to customers for 1-3K, and they’ll happily tell them they designed the theme – thats why they change the footer attribute with their own name.

Nothing new really. :)

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crozer says

If you, as a designer or developer, get hired by a client to design/develop a theme, you should keep a few things in mind. If you know that you won’t be creating the theme from scratch, and that you will get it form TF, the standard (or better yet, morally acceptable) procedure, is to tell your client: Bla bla, I strongly recommend TF bla bla, and so according to your needs and requirements, this is the list of themes I would highly recommend you to use as your future theme, bla bla.

That said, the client knows that you’re not the author of the original product, but that you will rather extended, customize and adapt it as per your client’s needs. Now, in this scenario, if you add your own emblem on the site’s copyright giving yourself all the credit, then you’re just wrong. The client knows it, and as TF grows and grows, anybody in the web-branch will know it is a TF theme – making you look foolish.

Everything changes, though, if you keep your client completely unaware of the developing/designing process. In this case, you keep the client in a bubble where he/she thinks you are the best in this world, and you created some absolutely stunning all by yourself. This, however, will give you a bad name and in the long run, it won’t be what you wanted.

That’s my point of view on all of this.

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dnp_theme says

Thanks everybody. Useful inputs everybody.

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CLINE123 says

@dnp_theme. Since I only use WP themes I haven’t bought anything from you but hypothetically, what would you like me to do if I bought your theme for a client?

  • Should I leave my name off and put ‘Designed by: DNP ’ with a link back to your TF profile or website?
  • Should I put ‘Site designed by DNP ’ with the link back to your TF profile/website and ‘Site Customized by: ME’ with a link to my website?

I would like you to state specifically what you’ like to see at the bottom of a website customized using your theme that would make you happy.

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DiogoRedinDevelopment says

I think that the best “copyright tag” you all “buyer/”””””designers””””” should have on “your” themes is:

“Customized by username”. Simple, you did not designed the theme or developed it, so you should not place “designed by username”. As simple as this.

But I do understand that you all want to make tons of money by buying a 35$ theme and selling it (your “design”) for 1k/2k, and feel shame in saying that it is a customization, basically you’re all cheating your clients lol. Sorry, but it’s the truth. ;)

I’ve seen people buying themes of 35$ and then selling a simple customization for 1k. You all can guess the surprise of the final client when he discovered that it wasn’t a custom design as he thought initially. :S

Personally I would be happy with just a link saying: Customized by “username”, you all don’t need to add credits to the original developer or designer, but you shouldn’t give the idea that you’re the creators.

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sevenspark Moderator says

Guys, most of the sales here come from “theme customizers” that turn around and sell themes purchased here at a profit. They set up the site for their clients, add content, and make customizations.

If these people didn’t exist, we would have a much smaller market. Try not to bash your customer base – it doesn’t seem very wise, does it?

Fact is, once they buy a template or product, they can change whatever they want. If you’re not okay with that, you probably shouldn’t be selling stock templates.

I think they should be up front with their clients about what they’re doing (I know CLINE is, for example), but that’s really between them and their clients.

Most clients will end up putting “copyright {company}” in the end anyway. Well, they have a copyright over the content, not the design, so this isn’t 100% accurate but it doesn’t seem worth arguing over.

If a theme customization service provider puts “designed by me” in the footer, that’s a little misleading, but putting something like “site by me” doesn’t bother me at all.

Long and the short of it is:

1. If you’re not comfortable with customers using your templates as they wish, this probably isn’t the place for you, sorry.

2. Don’t attack your customers, especially not publicly. This is just silly.

3. Don’t blame customers for making a profit, as long as they’re being upfront with their clients. If you’d prefer to do that, you can do it too :)

Try to remember this is a symbiotic ecosystem here – we all help each other. Remove a piece of the equation and we all suffer.

And let’s keep the thread respectful going forward, please and thank you :)

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dnp_theme says

In my documentation, I instructed buyers to delete the designed by line. Also, if I notice anyone’s work using my template and having his designed by user, I am advising the user that he is loosing credibility doing that with a theme/template bought from ThemeForest.

So as suggested by new posters here, the credits could go like this:

Designed by author.
Customized by buyer.

OR

Site developed by buyer

OR

CLINE123 – in your case, you could simply delete that line from the template code. The entire idea is that you cannot as a buyer who customized my work to say: Designed by CLINE .

One because you are breaking the copyright laws and second because your client will kick you out when he could find out you bought the design for $35 from Themeforest. You will quickly need a new name for yourself.

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