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randomnoise says

Re-reading this thread and my own post I want to add two things that from my point of view seem to be of major importance for the future of envato (putting all technological and usabilty-related issues and ideas aside):

1. Though I understand and generally support your efforts in interweaving the several marketplaces into the big envato cosmos I think you have to start acknowledging the fact that they can’t all be set up, managed and marketed in the same way. (Things on Audiojungle for example work VERY differently compared to themeforest and others – regarding issues like licencing, ratings …and much much more). I think you have to start differentiating MORE between the marketplaces in order to give each envato ‘world’ a proper setup for the future to be successful in their respective online ecosystems (...even if this means that the system is going to get more complex with individual functions for each marketplace).

2. Reading through the envato blog and forum posts by staff members I get the feeling that you try too hard to evoke a sense of ‘being in the envato family’ by overstating the word ‘community’ when referring to auhtors/buyers. Of course this is in some sense what we are. But first and foremost we are your business partners. Treat us accordingly by listening to us seriously and providing us with ways to be included in decisions.

All the best,

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kimonothemes says

Would love to see a git integration for authors. Pushing code would make an item update easy peasy!

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tommusrhodus says

Would love to see a git integration for authors. Pushing code would make an item update easy peasy!

+1 that would be awesome, the potential for decent bug tracking and pull requests as well would be amazing :)

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GravityDept says

(1) (2) (3) All have the same answer: Success means the Envato marketplaces support sustainable business.

I’ve been here four years, and the marketplaces have exploded in item and user volume. More users = more potential buyers. But more items = less exposure per item.

Some authors are thriving (a few like Scrooge McDuck) by riding the popular lists for month after month (I was one of them). But many are increasingly frustrated and (unrealistically) still banking on an exposure-driven business.

Envato’s business model only supports Envato during massive scaling. Envato earns regardless and individual authors compete for less. It doesn’t matter if authors drop like flies, they are replaceable.

I shake my head whenever an author suggests redesigning the homepage will solve all the problems that scaling brings. There is no equitable design solution for exposure when 30+ items are approved daily. The model has to fundamentally change.

For Envato to be a sustainable marketplace, the value of author support must be recognized monetarily. Envato’s competitors have done it. There was hand wringing and ALL CAPS for a while, but ultimately their customers (the paying ones — not the other kind) stayed because they valued support services.

Churning out new items is less and less sustainable as it becomes the norm. Stop ignoring real value: having the original developer on-hand for support and continued item updates. Getting paid for those things means authors won’t rely their few hours of homepage exposure so much. They just need a few customers and to keep them happy. Happy customers are a tumbleweed of sustainable profit.

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VF says

For Envato to be a sustainable marketplace, the value of author support must be recognized monetarily. Envato’s competitors have done it.

+1. This is a huge thing we authors (and in fact the industry) missing – right now.

Sometimes and even in this thread I mention a harsh sentence of “Envato is hacking the industry”. In reality this may not apply and unfair to point such way but since Envato’s huge part of success solely depends on author’s support hours on TF (which is additional to creating products), this is a point of importance.

I would like to point one thing. There is no meaning with “comment section” in ThemeForest (for TF only) as almost every item requires support channel – regardless of its optional. Just allow the authors to pick the traditional comment section or author’s own support channel – not both. Currently having both is an ultimate nuisance for both buyers as well as authors.

If it is considered comment section as essential, then replace it with a full set of feedback + rating section visible to public. TF definitely deserves this.

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familychoice says

If it is considered comment section as essential, then replace it with a full set of feedback + rating section visible to public. TF definitely deserves this.

+1


Imagining your team in long meetings making mindmaps about the “Envato 2020 Vision” makes me sigh. If the most basic feature of an online marketplace is still in such bad shape – where’s the point in thinking about visions? Please focus ALL your available ressources on the search experience for buyers for now – and let’s talk about 2020 when you’re done.

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My heart sinks when I think back to hours wasted in top level corporate management meetings where ‘blue sky thinking’, ‘mission statements’ and ‘envelope pushing’ were discussed at length. As a designer/developer it was then my job to make sense of it all and translate the ‘vision’ into a usable website for their customers.

Envato don’t need a vision for the future, they need to fix the usability issues with their current website and the comment/rating system which clearly isn’t working satisfactorily for authors, or customers.

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Merografix says

1. i would like to see logos being sold under extended licence and most probably a separate marketplace just for logos. 2. A higher payout % for authors.

+ Totally supporting this

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arekactiv says

You should sell some themes in subscription (with support by author) model not just like not as once bought items.

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bydesigno says

(1) In the context of the Envato ecosystem, what does success mean to you? *Independence :-) (2) What do you want to achieve through our sites? What new things and in what new ways could we be helping you succeed? *Maybe, better social structure that combines video and audio chat among possible team members. (3) What would it look like for the whole community to be succeeding? *Team work, with fair profit percentage.

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zorionti says

There was a wish to receive the help for those who doesn’t speak in English, can eat at you employees. who can help to fill tags and to draw for it interest from sales. I am ready to work so if your experts help with sales.

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