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tommusrhodus says

@An-Themes No offence taken :)

Whilst I agree the timing of this thread may be a little obvious, nonetheless this is a problem that needs addressing. If I’m honest the reason I opened this thread today is simple:

The frontpage is 100% different this morning than when I went to bed last night

Are there strong designs on there? Hell yes! Are there also very questionable weak designs? Indeed.

Now whilst I would have definitely liked Tucson to sell better than it has, I know it will continue to sell at a level that I’m happy with because I’ve been fortunate enough to grow well as an author here.

My concern, as noted in my original post, is that newer authors (with great designs) are going to find it really hard to break in at the current rate & quality standards of approval.

Finishing off, I opened this thread because when I joined here, TF was the high bastion of design quality by comparison to other marketplaces. I merely want it to stay this way, let us be the marketplace that really drives things forward & shows off quality, and not just quantity (despite my own portfolio!)

@Alex & @Charlie, thanks guys as always :D

EDIT: @anps, you’re totally correct, since we can’t call items out I’m trying to keep this thread as non-pointed as possible. I guess I’m referring more to the huge flood of items in recent months, many of which are taking away from the TF experience as a whole, rather than adding to it.

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QBKL says

TF was the high bastion of design quality by comparison to other marketplaces. I merely want it to stay this way, let us be the marketplace that really drives things forward & shows off quality, and not just quantity.

You’re absolutely right Tom. I’ve been around for 5 years, back when CSS Mania was the go to place for inspiration, yet before looking at any gallery I always came to ThemeForest to checkout the daily releases because I found them to be very inspirational and people looked like they were driving design and technology forward. Not anymore nowadays. It feels like a continuous rehash of codrops blueprints and tutorials and best-seller themes.

I’m not saying there aren’t good new products out there everyday. There are, well executed, balanced BUT prudent. I’m curious where the market place will end up when prudence will oversaturate it.

PS: You’re welcome ;)

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ThemeFocus says

I think Site Manager need periodic inspection item, old item need hide it.

For Example:

Now, wordpress theme version is 3.8.1. As old wordpress item still just support 3.7 or more low, please notify author to change it so that support 3.8.1.If the author didn’t corresponding changes within one month will hide the item, but don’t delete it.

If you agree +1

:)

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digitalscience says

To improve exposure to new files all Envato needs to do is to add this:

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Why they haven’t done this yet is beyond me, it’s simple enough and the library is large enough to need something like this. Buyers sometimes want to see “fresh” work, and not just the old top selling themes.

Exposure to new files will only get less unless something like this added.

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digitalscience says

If we had something like that added, quality standards wouldn’t be a big issue, because low quality files would get weeded out quickly.

But because we don’t this filtering option… good files get pushed off the home page and get lost in the system by poorer quality files that don’t sell. While the same old top themes just keep getting exposure and sales.

If buyers can’t find your stuff, you’re not going to get sales – fact.

Updated image… shouldn’t say sales on the top:

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erwin_schro says

If we had something like that added, quality standards wouldn’t be a big issue, because low quality files would get weeded out quickly.

But because we don’t this filtering option… good files get pushed off the home page and get lost in the system by poorer quality files that don’t sell. While the same old top themes just keep getting exposure and sales.

If buyers can’t find your stuff, you’re not going to get sales – fact.

+1

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digitalscience says

Besides the home page exposure battle between high quality and poor quality files, another reason why we need a better filtering option is this scenario.

An author develops a theme for 6 months which is priced at $55, they’ll be lucky to get a day or two of exposure on the home page. On the same home page there are several One Page PSD themes and coming soon pages going for $10 which can be created in a few days to a week which don’t really sell well. Buyers are more likely to purchase whole completed themes.

How can it be fair if both types of files have equal amount of exposure on the home page? Sorting by sales + upload date will solve this problem.

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QBKL says

digitalscience, mate I feel you, I really do, but the point of this topic was the quality of the submissions lately, not exposure time. I know how frustrating is to work on something and see it get off the home in less than 24 hours. It really doesn’t matter if you worked 2-3 months, or a week. Trust me, it still feels like shit and in the end it’s still a waste of investment time.

Point is, we’re hijacking this thread with suggestions about exposure that TF won’t take into account anyway, or say they’ll consider it than because the debate gets heated, the topic gets locked.

Every author deserves their time when publishing a new product. No matter how much time they invested in the product. If it’s HTML or PSD, the development time will be smaller but so will their earnings. Things have a way to balance themselves. And HTML authors get to and need to push out more products than WP authors.

If you really want a place where WP authors get the cream of the crop, then WP themes should get a special market of their own and not mix with other templates or CMS.

Your suggestion relative to the top selectors would definitely be an improvement, but seriously… when was the last time you saw a suggestion or drawing of the community implemented on TF? I don’t remember seeing and we’re only stressing ourselves for pretty much nothing.

PS: Apex looks brilliant!

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digitalscience says

digitalscience, mate I feel you, I really do, but the point of this topic was the quality of the submissions lately, not exposure time.

If the topic of quality standards was coming up, it means it’s effecting exposure and sales of quality files. Why else would it come up by a top author? Exposure of new items is the route cause of this thread… If we had better filtering options and authors uploaded crap, it wouldn’t effect new high quality submissions at all.

Next argument ;)

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QBKL says

Next argument ;)

No need for arrogance mate. Allow me to disagree. The root of the “submission quality” problem is not exposure time. Nor having better filters are the main solution for this. It would only be a PART of a real solution. The REAL root and solution is a better and more strict review standard of the items. From that point on every other change is just an improvement of the system.

But we all know the review standards won’t get raised. Why? For the same reason authors play it safe and push out “prudent” designs. Envato published/accepts every design that has the potential to make a few pennies. It still counts as income. And the struggle to sell moves more and more to the author corner who sees himself forced to do more and more side promotion, social media, Google Ads and so on. ThemeForest is not a marketplace for designers and developers – as it used to be – anymore. It’s a place of business, overcrowded just like any other business sector, with diamonds and weeds alike.

Having a good design and good skills is not enough anymore so authors adjust and become sharks or swim in the ocean with the small fish.

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