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wickedpixel says

yeah.. let the people know! we have rights too! :D:P

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wangruyi says

oh. This is a complex problem.

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ADG3studios Envato team says
yeah.. let the people know! we have rights too! :D:P

yeah you have the right to remain silent , you have the right an attorney…. you know the drill :P:D

not you wicked.. but you know… :)

let things play out fairly.. trust Staff on this one guys.. :)

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MarkBrodhuber Envato team says
When the matter is resolved will we all get a status update? I have no problem letting this thread die assuming that we are informed of any wrongdoing that’s going on. Sending it to support, killing the thread then silencing the whole issue (which could potentially effect a great deal of authors) would probably be the best way for stuff like this to continue springing up in the forums. Of course we respect your desire to keep things like this out of the forums, but in turn we need to be kept in the loop when are files are potentially bieng stolen and the system is being heavily abused.

Well Geoken you make a valid point. BUT the thing is this is truly a staff only issue to begin with, that was brought to the forum, when it never should have. Because of that, you know about this issue for the wrong reason.

My apologies to btibia but this is more of a personal, calling out, deformation of character. His yet to be proven accusations, are putting an asterisk on bobocel’s name. And he is putting it out there in the public eye, with out any confirmation as to being right.

In my personal opinion, if they both truly have code that resembles a tutorials code so much so, that FD Staff finds it to be a copyright issue, then they are BOTH at fault. Like I said above Btibia is calling himself out on this one as well.

Regardless of the justification. This is a support issue not a witch hunt, and for the sake of peace in the forums, this should not be here. I hope you understand. :)

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MrTed says

btibia, I notice you and bobocel are both from Romania, that’s your fellow countrymen dude…wtf

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rondog says

Earlier in the thread when someone asked about using PV3D , fuse, tweener etc as copyright issues… Have you seen some of the sites using fuse? Huge corporations. They aren’t paying moses G. (fuse author); they give him credibility on the site which I think is fine. I use fuse in just about any file I submit and make it known and give a link to the web site. Shouldn’t have to worry about using these tools

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theflyingtinman says
btibia, I notice you and bobocel are both from Romania, that’s your fellow countrymen dude…wtf

Hey .. I am originally from the same country .. even the same town .. as this guy , but I don’t think we have much in common ;)

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btibia says

Why to close this thread, people must know when somebody tricks, makes bad things, my main concern is this: I HOPE HE DIDN ’T USE /COPY OTHER USERS FILES /CLASSES/CODES. I CAN ’T SAY THAT HE DID , BUT HE COPIED MINE , THIS IS FOR SURE .

P.S. This is a free world, people have the right to know things, this is not low level problem, the staff ( creators of flashden ) need to find the proper solution. As i told ( i don’t want to repeat myself ) if he made it once he can make it twice…and so on, i don’t say that he made it to other authors BUT you never now ( money / power change people this is for sure )

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MarkBrodhuber Envato team says

FD Staff take things like this very serious, and Bobocel being part of the reviewing team will not weigh their decision. I can promise you they will, and probably are already looking into it, and their decision will be fair, and well explained. Please in the future wait until you hear the decision before you put someone out there like you did.

And I want to extend my apologies BT but it appears that when I attempted to hit “reply with quote” to quote your last post, I accidentally hit edit. And overwrote it. When you quote someone, it puts all the info that you wrote in your message just between blockquotes, and since your message contained block quotes, I removed everything besides what you see above because thats the part I wanted to reply to. Again I apologize, but after editing your post by accident, whats there now was all I had left. My sincere apologies.

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MrTed says
That is exactly my point, you answer my post with MORE stuff. Just fueling it more. You are right. People do have a right to know about certain things…but guess what you said “people must know when somebody tricks…”, “BUT HE COPIED MINE , THIS IS FOR SURE .”…

Sorry but this is NOT for sure. You are exposing something WAY before it has even been proven. Its propaganda at its current state…and your spreading rumors with out a decided ruling. And because of this, this whole thread is WAY out of line.

And I don’t know how many times I can say this…but you are complaining about him “copying you” when your work was NOT original. Your work was created by copying it from someone else. And there is no proof that Bobocel got his code from you, when very similar code was freely available on a public blog. So really all you can accuse him of is ALSO copying someone else’s work, and it makes your argument a non-valid one.

Every post is just an attempt to stir the pot in my opinion. Every post, in response to my request to stop posting, is an answer to me along with more “evidence”. All of this “evidence” should be sent to support.

Lets give this situation a real life example…Lets say you accuse someone of committing some serious crime. You accuse them publicly. Before or during an investigation. And lets just say that after investigation, the person you are accusing is found innocent. That person can, and probably will sue you for deformation of character. And its a valid suit.

So things really need to be thought about, before posting. Especially when you call someone out, so openly on this forum. People do have the right to know things…but only after you can 100% prove that this actually happened. Right now its just here-say. And your case is one that you are guilty of committing yourself. Yes it may have not been in FD rules at the time, and yes you could have uploaded someone else’s publicly available code. But just from that last sentence is what makes this all wrong. The code was publicly available, you copied it yourself, and now you are upset because someone did the same thing.

I personally feel that you being upset would be justified, if you created 100% of the code yourself…and he took that. But thats not what happened, you both got your code from a public website, and at the time, that was allowed here, so your both not right, but your both not wrong.



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