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infuse01 says

Not acceptable, it’s just too little.

I don’t think so. At least we know what’s going on and can take our own actions. Maybe something like I mentioned before – some kind of union. At the moment I make some basic calculation at how much that could cost – just to see if something like this could work or not.

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dnp_theme says


Not acceptable, it’s just too little.
I don’t think so. At least we know what’s going on and can take our own actions. Maybe something like I mentioned before – some kind of union. At the moment I make some basic calculation at how much that could cost – just to see if something like this could work or not.

No it’s not like that. In my point of view, considering the profits it gets, Envato does not do enough, it’s like it’s not doing anything. We are 1500+ authors, the stuff is less than 30 I guess. As one stuff said, just one or two… for the copyright battle, that is not enough.

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NicoaraCostin says

You can not take legal actions against someone (person or company) for files or any other material that is not yours. Envato only sells the work that you create with your agreement. They facilitate the deals but they do not own the files. When it comes to legal actions to take down files form sharing sites, you have to do it becouse you are the owner, not the Envato team. I suggest you keep an eye on a daily basis on the sharing sites and see when your work is being pirated and send a notice to the sharing websites.

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infuse01 says

You can not take legal actions against someone (person or company) for files or any other material that is not yours. Envato only sells the work that you create with your agreement. They facilitate the deals but they do not own the files. When it comes to legal actions to take down files form sharing sites, you have to do it becouse you are the owner, not the Envato team. I suggest you keep an eye on a daily basis on the sharing sites and see when your work is being pirated and send a notice to the sharing websites.

Not true…EVERYBODY can represent me to take certain actions as long as I give permission. So if I give permission to my lawyer to do that job for me in my name I can also give permission to everyone else.

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dnp_theme says

You can not take legal actions against someone (person or company) for files or any other material that is not yours. Envato only sells the work that you create with your agreement. They facilitate the deals but they do not own the files. When it comes to legal actions to take down files form sharing sites, you have to do it becouse you are the owner, not the Envato team. I suggest you keep an eye on a daily basis on the sharing sites and see when your work is being pirated and send a notice to the sharing websites.

Thanks Costin, I already know what you are saying bro. I am talking about something else, something more than we see today, so we the authors have more time to develop OR JUST ENJOY LIFE .

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dnp_theme says


You can not take legal actions against someone (person or company) for files or any other material that is not yours. Envato only sells the work that you create with your agreement. They facilitate the deals but they do not own the files. When it comes to legal actions to take down files form sharing sites, you have to do it becouse you are the owner, not the Envato team. I suggest you keep an eye on a daily basis on the sharing sites and see when your work is being pirated and send a notice to the sharing websites.
Not true…EVERYBODY can represent me to take certain actions as long as I give permission. So if I give permission to my lawyer to do that job for me in my name I can also give permission to everyone else.

Yes, just about to count the 30-50% Envato charge for our work, they should represent us.

I grant permission to any Envato stuff, Envato Member to take any legal action against those websites who post download links on a regular basis, with the purpose of eliminating the warez webites, till there will be no more such site and all hostings will have enough of losing money in courts for supporting such LOSERS .

Take note that we know Kim DotCom is not guilty, or other file sharing, the users posting content are guilty: gfxtra, redbitz, nulledphp, portaliz, heroturko, these are the bad guys and their miserable websites. They should go to JAIL for 10 YEARS and not Kim Dotcom.

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NicoaraCostin says

Infuse … anyone can represent your interests, even Envato. But for that they have to open up a law firm, hire an attorney who specialises on copyright infrigment and so on. That wont be cheap and the fees for protecting your work wont be small. Take that into consideration.

dnp_theme … you can’t grant a verbal permission to someone to take legal actions for you. These things are done following strict rulles that envolve higher institutions than Envato.

kim is as guilty as any other user who shares copyrighted material without agreement.

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dnp_theme says

dnp_theme … you can’t grant a verbal permission to someone to take legal actions for you. These things are done following strict rulles that envolve higher institutions than Envato. kim is as guilty as any other user who shares copyrighted material without agreement.

kim is not guilty for the content others post there, he may be guilty of something else we don’t cover in this thread, that is the point.

A real legal team at Envato should do, Envato is an economic entity, we are authors, we have no entity, we sell commercial open source, most of us cannot do more than DMCA notice, but we must take down entire websites and we need help from our community leaders.

We get frustrated for low sales and no cooperation from Envato in this matter.

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Nitro_Themes says

HEY dnp

You know what the problem is? The problem is that these bad sites do not host the downlodable files. I tried to do this on my own and got no where. This is one of those issues that you cannot do anything about neither can Envato. It’s one of those things that you get used to because the odds are against you or me. The darkside is just too big and there are more and more of these sites that pop up everyday so even if you close one down there are 5 that start up.

We just have to count on our true customers that actually buy our files. You can always get them to email you so you can check if they did or did not purchase your file. Once you know you can say that you are not providing any support for the ones that did not buy.

Cheers dude

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xdkd says

Ultimately what that means is that we cannot send DMCA take down notices for you because we are not the creators of the files.

I’m no legal professional but it seems one can assign a DMCA agent – Envato in this case, that would give you such power.

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