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ianizaguirre
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Hi I am new to everything, but I think I am learning very fast. I am teaching myself css on my free time and html , color theory etc using a paid teaching site.

My question is this: when I have a client and they want me to make a website for them. Is it seen as “bad” by other people who know about design and web development , to just go and buy a premium theme for $50.00 and then work on changing the colors, text, style etc. and adding the information to create there site. Or is it expected for ME to actually create a “custom theme” ?

I am trying to understand what is expected of me by others ( even though my clients know nothing about websites) ?

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FlatKing
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A lot of people do it and honestly there is nothing wrong with it.

However if you do feel bad using themes and charging the same amount as a custom build you might want to say $3k for a custom build but $1k if you choose a theme you like out of this list. Easier for you and customer

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fifty_tons
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If you only change the colors and heading font yes it’s bad. If you customize it so much that it doesn’t look similar to the original product it’s not bad. Put yourself in the client’s place :)

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charlie4282
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Always be honest and upfront with them. Tell them it is a pre built template that is being customised.

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abstract-labs
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Always be honest and upfront with them. Tell them it is a pre built template that is being customised.

+1. This is what I do, think if someday your client finds out that you used a template, he will feel like he was defrauded in some way (even if it’s not true), but if you make this clear before starting the job there won’t be any problems in future. Just charge what you think is fair.

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Australia
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Think of yourself as a chef.

You have all the ingredients,and with some magic you make a michelin star meal.

Nothing wrong with using themes, templates.

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Graphic-Studio
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I always advise my customers that is’s much faster to utilize a theme and that I provide customizations for my fee. I have never had any problems.

As mentioned, some websites could take you weeks or months to complete. With a Theme, everything is pretty much done for you.

As the Designer you are controlling the final outcome.

It is completely normal to use themes and charge for customizing them.

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Bedros
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Always be honest and upfront with them. Tell them it is a pre built template that is being customised.

+1

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ianizaguirre
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Wow guys thank you for all of the reply’s and advice :-) !

1.) Do you think $1200 is a fair price ( or do you think its to high or low) for me to charge someone to build there website And YES make a lot of customizations and work :-) BUT use a theme?

2.) I would be doing all this by myself, is this typically done in teams?

3.) What is a typical time frame , 6 weeks ( with a theme) ?

4.) What skill level should I have ? I mean like I know CSS pretty well; html -> wordpress does pretty much automatically, child themes I know, I know how to use ftp of course, plugins, wordpress, color theory. And I am going to take a semester off school to learn functions php. ( I am studying something unrelated to design), - what I don’t know pretty much is photo shop but I can do small changes using gimp shop without any issues but I am not to good or familiar with gimp/photo shop skills. But things like logos I can out source so that should not be an issue. Right now I am building my portfolio.

5.) and what do I call myself ? A web designer or web developer lol ??

So what do you think?

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charlie4282
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Again it depends on how much customization, design, modification etc is going into it. 6 weeks seems a very long time to edit a theme.

You can call yourself what you want – if in doubt web professional is always safe!

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