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dmsumon says

I think the Joomla! market on TF is fully dead. In Joomla CMS section of TF there are some awesome templates accepted in the last two months but I am very much amazed by their sell volumes. Most of them made very low sell volumes even though they are great by design. As far as I know January and February are the higher selling months of TF but those templates made very poor sell volumes. I am not only worried by mine selling rate but worried for other Joomla authors too. Because I am a Joomla developer and this is the only CMS for which I have dedicated my life. I think now the time has come to be a developer of other CMS ie: WP, Drupal etc. Do I really need to make my mind to think Joomla is a dead CMS by now? Any valuable suggestion would be very much appreciated. Thank you.

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HellasDesign says

I think that the best solution is to release items for both WordPress (or other CMS) and Joomla. Joomla is not dead but it has very low sales because most of TF buyers prefer WordPress.

Also, a Joomla template can have a lot of sales only when it is very unique and the buyers can’t find a similar item on other CMS (WordPress, Drupal etc).

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dnp_theme says

People buy Virtuemart mostly.

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dnp_theme says

Let me rectify that:

Virtuemart and a few good designs really sell on Joomla category.

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ThemeRox says

Let me rectify that: Virtuemart and a few good designs really sell on Joomla category.
Agree with dnp_theme. Joomla is not dead but the As usual Design or Trend on Joomla is dead. Market getting now challenging :). And I think wordpress is much challenging category. Check Wp cat and sell volume :)
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Dear Niamul vai (ThemeRox)... are you sure you are agreed with dnp_theme? Then what will you say about your own virtuemart template “G-Shop”? Though it has very good design but it got only 16 sells till now! So will you say that your design is not good? Please don’t mind thinking why I am referencing your items.. I love all your works and you are an idol to me… But on this Joomla and Virtuemart matter I totally disagree with both of you. Browse the virtuemart category of Joomla and check their sell volumes please. Believe me when anyone is very serious to make e e-commerce site then his/her first choice would be to go with Magento and then what will be the second choice? Everyone knows the answer that is to use woocommerce or e-commerce plugin of WP. Who wants to use virtuemart these days? It’s popularity is very very far away from Shopify, Opencart or even Prestashop too

I also don’t agree with HellasDesign.. He said “Joomla template can have a lot of sales only when it is very unique and the buyers can’t find a similar item on other CMS (WordPress, Drupal etc).” I don’t agree with this because a Joomla user will always search for a theme of Joomla suitable for his project. According to his saying if he doesn’t find it for Joomla then he will search an suitable item in WP category or vice versa… What a ridiculous thought? A user who is very familiar with WP why will he switch to Joomla CMS? or any person who is familiar with Joomla why will he switch to WP? Because switching from one CMS to other CMS is not a very easy matter.. It is a matter of learning a full new CMS, isn’t it? But yes if there is no other way then it may happen that someone is switching from one CMS to another. But personally I believe that every CMS has all types of design ready for any types of projects.

Finally I agree with one thing that yes if your design is really unique then buyer will always buy it.

Last of all I will say please remember that I am not debating to prove that Joomla! CMS is dead or the market for Joomla! is dead… Because Joomla is my first love and most important thing is I live on developing for Joomla!. Joomla! gave me to live a luxury life and gave me financial freedom. I want this CMS to live forever :)

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egemenerd says

I made Joomla versions of some of my WP themes and I think this was a mistake. Selling rate is really low and if I worked on WP themes instead of these Joomla templates, I’m sure that I would be richer now :)

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dmsumon says

I made Joomla versions of some of my WP themes and I think this was a mistake. Selling rate is really low and if I worked on WP themes instead of these Joomla templates, I’m sure that I would be richer now :)

Though I am not happy and it is very hard for me to bear but 100% agreed with you :(

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I also don’t agree with HellasDesign.. He said “Joomla template can have a lot of sales only when it is very unique and the buyers can’t find a similar item on other CMS (WordPress, Drupal etc).” I don’t agree with this because a Joomla user will always search for a theme of Joomla suitable for his project. According to his saying if he doesn’t find it for Joomla then he will search an suitable item in WP category or vice versa… What a ridiculous thought? A user who is very familiar with WP why will he switch to Joomla CMS? or any person who is familiar with Joomla why will he switch to WP? Because switching from one CMS to other CMS is not a very easy matter.. It is a matter of learning a full new CMS, isn’t it? But yes if there is no other way then it may happen that someone is switching from one CMS to another. But personally I believe that every CMS has all types of design ready for any types of projects.

Dear dmsumon,

I have a few customers who changed CMS because they like one of my items. So, I don’t think that this is an issue. As for Joomla users… don’t forget that there are a lot of companies/teams/developers (like the developers of T3 Framework, Gavern Framework and Warp Framework – I don’t want to post links) that create Joomla templates for a lot of years and they already have a lot of customers!

When a Joomla user wants a new template, he/she always check these websites first. As you can see, Joomla section doesn’t have as many items as other sections.

I really don’t know what to tell you. If I were you I would release items for more than one CMS. You have nothing to lose. For example, you can release a Joomla template on February and the same item for WordPress on March. It won’t take more than a month (or two) to release it on other CMS.

I really like Joomla and I use it for more than 6 years. But when you want more customers then you have to release items for more CMS (like WordPress, Drupal etc)

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I also don’t agree with HellasDesign.. He said “Joomla template can have a lot of sales only when it is very unique and the buyers can’t find a similar item on other CMS (WordPress, Drupal etc).” I don’t agree with this because a Joomla user will always search for a theme of Joomla suitable for his project. According to his saying if he doesn’t find it for Joomla then he will search an suitable item in WP category or vice versa… What a ridiculous thought? A user who is very familiar with WP why will he switch to Joomla CMS? or any person who is familiar with Joomla why will he switch to WP? Because switching from one CMS to other CMS is not a very easy matter.. It is a matter of learning a full new CMS, isn’t it? But yes if there is no other way then it may happen that someone is switching from one CMS to another. But personally I believe that every CMS has all types of design ready for any types of projects.

Dear dmsumon,

I have a few customers who changed CMS because they like one of my items. So, I don’t think that this is an issue. As for Joomla users… don’t forget that there are a lot of companies/teams/developers (like the developers of T3 Framework, Gavern Framework and Warp Framework – I don’t want to post links) that create Joomla templates for a lot of years and they already have a lot of customers!

When a Joomla user wants a new template, he/she always check these websites first. As you can see, Joomla section doesn’t have as many items as other sections.

I really don’t know what to tell you. If I were you I would release items for more than one CMS. You have nothing to lose. For example, you can release a Joomla template on February and the same item for WordPress on March. It won’t take more than a month (or two) to release it on other CMS.

I really like Joomla and I use it for more than 6 years. But when you want more customers then you have to release items for more CMS (like WordPress, Drupal etc)
Dear friend, yep I know it may happen that customers are switching from one CMS to another, most probably to WP because they know that WP has many theme options to choose. I also know that when someone wants more customers then he has to release items for more CMS (like WordPress, Drupal etc) But I am not firing just in the air I am talking with references , see on the top author egemenerd’s comment , also check that one of his WP item has made 285 sells so far whereas it’s Joomla! version made only 29 sells! Don’t you think this gives a clear idea what I am saying about?

We all know about RocketTheme, Gavick and YooTheme. They all are great places for Joomla templates but you are saying that because of these great Joomla companies existence people don’t buy templates from TF! It is ridiculous! Then I want to remind you that though TF is the most reputed place to buy WP themes but there are 100 more theme companies for WP. They are not countable like Joomla theme companies they are uncountable… They are also great… I also want to remind you that though the three companies mentioned above are always known for Joomla but from last year all of them started to develop for WP too because of WP’s sky touching popularity and Joomla market’s sell rate crash

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