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WebFactory says

Judging how WooThemes quickly came and went on TF so will this slider on CC (they get 25% of every sale so …). Therefor I’m not overly concerned about that.

However, the fact it’s been featured is a whole nother story. I don’t know if they changed the person who picks featured items or not but week after week I’m more and more disappointed by their (his) picks. Of course nobody says I have to be pleased :)

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Thecodingdude says

Judging how WooThemes quickly came and went on TF so will this slider on CC (they get 25% of every sale so …). Therefor I’m not overly concerned about that. However, the fact it’s been featured is a whole nother story. I don’t know if they changed the person who picks featured items or not but week after week I’m more and more disappointed by their (his) picks. Of course nobody says I have to be pleased :)

Agreed.

Another concern is how the heck we’re supposed to get some items such a high price? I mean, this just seems unfair. I’ve seen some excellent, excellent items on codecanyon that are just wayyyy under-priced.

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mordauk says

Judging how WooThemes quickly came and went on TF so will this slider on CC (they get 25% of every sale so …). Therefor I’m not overly concerned about that. However, the fact it’s been featured is a whole nother story. I don’t know if they changed the person who picks featured items or not but week after week I’m more and more disappointed by their (his) picks. Of course nobody says I have to be pleased :)

Yeah, the price doesn’t bother me. In order for them to benefit at all from being on code canyon, the item had to be priced higher. On their site they get around $90 per license. Here they get 25% of $50, or about $12. So I really don’t care about the price, but envato really, really needs to reconsider the featuring system. Perhaps add a form for “community picks”.

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MattLowden says

Initially I thought designcise was complaining about better quality items being too hard to ‘beat’ (In terms of them being too high quality) but the issue seems to be with favoritism towards certain authors / items.

I haven’t really noticed this as I don’t pay allot of attention to the ‘Featured’ items but I shall make an effort to check more regularly.

If this is the case then it’s not fair on those that have earned the privilege of being featured.

Matt.

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omarabid says

Let me give my point of view here.

First, the item is worth $50. I would even say it worths more. Items should not be judged on how much time they took to get released, but on the buyer intention to pay for it. That is, Windows 7 is a complicated piece of software, but it sells for only $199. I got my WP plug-in priced at $18. I was expecting a much higher price. I didn’t complain, because until this point I’m trusting that the person that did price the script is savvy about the market and try to find the median price that will bring the most profit.

Now that’s point one. I hope we got it cleared. Let’s get to point two. The truth about this marketplace is that items are not neatly nailed as SlideDeck. They usually have bad demo, icons, documentation or copy-writing. CodeCanyon has gone by accepting them and I should say that there are lot of items that should not get accepted.

The problem now is that great items will kill these little files. (Exposure, Sales, Featured on blogs and sites…). This doesn’t benefit the average developer, but does benefit CodeCanyon and that superior developer. The average developer will also struggle, because whatever he’ll do to improve his item will not match the higher ones in any aspect.

I may think of a seperate marketplace for very expensive items (Wordpress themes, plugins, graphics, scripts…) if Envato found a market for that. For example, a very advanced grid system that I’ll be working on it this summer will not get a good coverage in CodeCanyon (or let’s say: the right audience). It would work better that I commercialise it myself and advertise for it with Adsense and charge a higher fee.

A seperate marketplace for expensive items will be a good target for that item. The item may price at $199 for the single license, but that’s the market price for it. If it was CodeCanyon, then it’s not feasible (or logic) to put an item with that price.

Just my thought. slideDeck may worth $99. The author has probably included it here to win the competition first price. But that’s not good for the average developer. If these highly priced items have a market, then let’s create a seperate website for them.

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spotnil says

First of all the item in no means has any superiority. Yes it is a little bit different and well rounded, but there is nothing special.

The fact is that they are a whole company. As a company they can afford to have designers, developers, copywriters and marketing specialists, to build a single product and to polish the package. Besides the package and the marketing noise there is nothing special about this slider.

Most of the buyers here are looking for something cheap, affordable and nicely looking. The API is not the biggest concern of our buyers.

That’s my opinion. We have only 2 items and both of them are sliders. But I do not worry about this competitor. It is over priced, over exposed and over estimated. The truth is that the average user is not stupid – the money matters.

Now the question about CC and the pricing. Well this is CC politic. Because the reviewer is a developer and the word API shines in his mind, so they overlook simple things. Most of the WordPress themes are <$35. The average slider here is $5-$20 including plugins. And the reviewer totally forgets that this is a marketplace for easily affordable components. Obviously there is a double measure when it comes to Featuring as well. The Ken Burns effect needed to be featured not this overpriced somewhat OK slider.

And we will not give up. As I said this new slider is way to expensive to be competitive, and we are coming with some serious updates in the next days. So we will see.

You need to start pricing the items here, by looking at: how easy the implementations is, how beneficial it is for the average customer, how many features has, how flexible the architecture is, what is the total benefit of it. Not just because they have API and boom $50. It is just not serious for CC. Like a kid seeing his first boat with a remote control.

I totally accept CC rules just wanted to share my opinion.

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spotnil says

Perhaps add a form for “community picks”.

Totally agree!

They can invite well established authors and the authors to pick the featured item. Or at least their opinion to be taken in consideration while picking the item.

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omarabid says


Perhaps add a form for “community picks”.

Totally agree!

They can invite well established authors and the authors to pick the featured item. Or at least their opinion to be taken in consideration while picking the item.

I agree on that after checking your item. It’s really worth featuring.

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spotnil says



Perhaps add a form for “community picks”.

Totally agree!

They can invite well established authors and the authors to pick the featured item. Or at least their opinion to be taken in consideration while picking the item.
I agree on that after checking your item. It’s really worth featuring.

hahaha thanks! :)

I meant different item, not mine.

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jigowatt says

(they get 25% of every sale so …)

I highly doubt they are only getting 25% ;-P

I don’t really have a problem with the commercial partnerships between envato and other companies providing they do not harm the community.

I’d totally agree though with the sentiment that actively promoting this product is a bit of a kick in the teeth to other authors somewhat.

As long as Envato remember who helped establish their marketplaces they’ll continue to be awesome communities :-)

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