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TimMcMorris says

Hey everyone,

Thanks to the awesome buyers on AJ I have an opportunity to upgrade some of my equipment and software :) and wanted to know who has used / has Komplete 7 by Native Instruments, and what are your thoughts about it? How is the sample library quality / the sampler itself (with all the features, not the free version)? Have you had any issues in your DAW ? How to you find the features compared to other similar products (if you have others), etc…

ALSO , what is your dreammm program / sample library / plug-in(s)? I’ve seen the list of free ones on the forums, and they are awesome, but I’m sure some of you have something to recommend that I’ve never heard of before (and that you just can’t get for free)! Whether it’s in the $100’s or $1000’s let me know, the price doesn’t matter. I get to go shopping soon :), and if I can’t get it now I can start bookmarking! Thanks!!!

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OhmLab says
Hey everyone,

Thanks to the awesome buyers on AJ I have an opportunity to upgrade some of my equipment and software :) and wanted to know who has used / has Komplete 7 by Native Instruments, and what are your thoughts about it? How is the sample library quality / the sampler itself (with all the features, not the free version)? Have you had any issues in your DAW ? How to you find the features compared to other similar products (if you have others), etc…

ALSO , what is your dreammm program / sample library / plug-in(s)? I’ve seen the list of free ones on the forums, and they are awesome, but I’m sure some of you have something to recommend that I’ve never heard of before (and that you just can’t get for free)! Whether it’s in the $100’s or $1000’s let me know, the price doesn’t matter. I get to go shopping soon :), and if I can’t get it now I can start bookmarking! Thanks!!!

Are you Mac or Windows based in the studio?

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TimMcMorris says
Are you Mac or Windows based in the studio?

Ahh yes, I am a windows guy…as many flaws as it has, I still can’t get into macs.

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OhmLab says
Are you Mac or Windows based in the studio?
Ahh yes, I am a windows guy…as many flaws as it has, I still can’t get into macs.

Hey man, nobody’s perfect ;)

I’m going to go ahead and assume you are already familiar with the popular and common apps out there. Also assuming you need good support for both audio and midi, and the ability to use plug-ins from all around, I would probably recommend Samplitude (and Sequioa) from Magix. http://www.samplitude.com/us/

I’m a Mac guy, but I hear good things form friends, and some pretty names in music have made the switch to it recently.

As far as Komplete 7 goes, I have hear a bunch of stuff from the libraries and yes, it is a good collection. If you have yet to listen to some samples from it, then here is a link to a rather epic demo (like 25 song samples, over 25-30 minutes) http://www.native-instruments.com/#/en/products/producer/komplete-7/?content=1297

Good luck out there!! Hope you find the right fit for your style.

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soundroll says

Hey, Tim

You may also tell what kind of music you’re gonna produce? electronic, acoustic, live recording? Anyway, I just can tell you my opinion and taste. The Native’s Kontakt is very good sampler, I like it, but I personally don’t like their libraries. I could suggest you to check Tonehammer libraries and loopmasters. For DAW – I like and use Nuendo and ProTools (for music more Nuendo, for post production – ProTools). VSTi – Omnisphere (synth), Stylus RMX (drums perc), EastWest (orchestra, drums).

You better check all these stuff by yourself, read reviews and make your choice. Hope it helped.

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OhmLab says
Hey, Tim

You may also tell what kind of music you’re gonna produce? electronic, acoustic, live recording? Anyway, I just can tell you my opinion and taste. The Native’s Kontakt is very good sampler, I like it, but I personally don’t like their libraries. I could suggest you to check Tonehammer libraries and loopmasters. For DAW – I like and use Nuendo and ProTools (for music more Nuendo, for post production – ProTools). VSTi – Omnisphere (synth), Stylus RMX (drums perc), EastWest (orchestra, drums).

You better check all these stuff by yourself, read reviews and make your choice. Hope it helped.

Yes, Tonehammer puts out some really great stuff! Good call @soundroll.

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garethcoker Envato team says

Here we go….

I’m running two PC’s networked with MIDIoverLAN and using SONAR as my main DAW . (I also have a Macbook which runs Logic).

I can also recommend Reaper and Cubase.

The following are libraries that I own and therefore can give an accurate review.

DISCLAIMER : To run all this stuff, you will need a monster computer (or two). DISCLAIMER 2 : Prices are off the top of my head, but are accurate give or take 10% I think.

You will find 4 demos at the end so you can hear what all this stuff is capable of.

ESSENTIAL LIBRARIES FOR THE FILM / GAME / TV COMPOSER

- ProjectSAM Symphobia 1 and 2 $2,500 – http://www.projectsam.com

Simply the best ‘general’ orchestral library out there. Needs to be complimented with other libraries, but for the ‘phat’ sound, this can’t be beat.

- ProjectSAM Orchestral Brass Classic $400 – http://www.projectsam.com

Still after many years, the best brass library on the market.

- Cinesamples Hollywoodwinds $300 – http://www.cinesamples.com

The best woodwind library on the market – particularly for orchestration purposes.

- Vienna Symphonic Library – $it depends – Solo Woodwinds – http://www.vsl.co.at

The best for more intimate writing with wind instruments.

Audiobro LA Scoring Strings – $1,100 – http://www.audiobro.com

Amazing library for intimate string sounds, but requires a lot of knowledge to get it sounding good.

- Eastwest Orchestra (Percussion only) $999 – http://www.soundsonline.com

Eastwest’s orchestra sounds are horribly dated. Only the percussion is any good. (Hollywood Strings is a new addition, but it’s too big, and too bloated for my tastes)

- Tonehammer Requiem $500 – http://www.tonehammer.com

This choir library is incredible. Sounds blockbuster quality.

- Spectrasonics Stylus RMX $300 – http://www.spectrasonics.net

Essential loop-based plugin for percussion. Incredible sound quality and great FX engine.

- Native Instruments Komplete 7 $550 ($250 for upgrade) – http://www.native-instruments.com

If you haven’t got Komplete before, than Komplete 7 is an essential purchase, so much great content. If you have Komplete 6 and are considering upgrading, it’s not worth the upgrade price.

- Spectrasonics Omnisphere / Trillian $800 together – http://www.spectrasonics.net

Omnisphere is a very powerful but slightly bloated synth with incredibly unique sounds. Trillian is the best bass library on the market.

OTHER LIBRARIES / COMPANIES YOU NEED TO CONSIDER .

Tonehammerhttp://www.tonehammer.com

All of Tonehammer’s libraries are phenomenal, particularly the epic percussion set. Well programmed, easy to use. Note: They require Kontakt. I own all of Tonehammer’s libraries (I am a big fanboy…) – I have never ever been disappointed.

Nine Volt Audiohttp://www.ninevoltaudio.com

Great loop libaraies for use in Stylus RMX . They also supply REX files, so can work in any seqeuncer. They have saved me many times on projects with tight deadlines.

Camel Audiohttp://www.camelaudio.com

Makers of the unbelievable synth Alchemy, which comes with a ton of cheap expansions. I love this synth.

Samplelogichttp://www.samplelogic.com

Makers of Morphestra, Cinematic Guitars, and the amazing Ambience Impacts Rhythms. Great for people who want cutting edge sounds in their products.

Evolvehttp://www.heavyocity.com

AMAZING sound quality from these guys. If the sounds weren’t so niche, I’d regard them as essential for any composer.

Eastwesthttp://www.soundsonline.com

I own all the Eastwest libraries, here is a quick review.

Silk – amazing. RA – dated. Gypsy – phenomenal solo violin sound, great accordions, great cimbalon, average everything else. The Dark Side – amazing, but very genre-specific. Fab Four – overpriced. Voices Of Passion – overpriced. SD2 – amazing. Pianos – UNBELIEVABLE .

RECOMMENDED PLUGIN COMPANIES

Fabfilter Pro-Q, Pro-C, Timeless, Volcano – http://www.fabfilter.com

These guys are amazing. You get a great EQ that DOESN ’T colour the sound. Likewise with their compression plugin. Also, Timeless is a wonderful delay plugin which allows for great creativity.

Audiodamagehttp://www.audiodamage.com

Everything these guys make is easy to use and has a great sound quality.

Izotope Ozone 4 $250 – http://www.izotope.com

Best software mastering gear, period.

PSP VintageWarmer 2http://www.pspaudioware.com

Amazing plugin that ….just seems to make stuff sound beter!

2CAudio Aether – $250 – http://www.2caudio.com

BY FAR , the best software reverb available. Unbelievable sound quality at an unbeatable price. ESSENTIAL .

I have invested a lot of time and money researching pretty much every product out there apart from the Vienna Symphonic Library – which is a great product that is not suited to my tastes. Rest assured, if it isn’t in this list, I either forgot about it, or I thought it was over-priced, or not worth it.

There are lots of companies out there that make great products that I haven’t mentioned. You will always be able to find something specific to your needs. More companies I can think of include, Bela D Media, Microhammer, Bolder Sounds, Loopmasters, Big Fish Audio (very overrated in my opinion), ModArt, Garritan.

Here are 4 demos that make use of most of these sounds. I recommend Rextended in particular.

Ripped Tensionhttp://audiojungle.net/item/ripped-tension/133500

Rextended – Orchestral Epic – http://www.box.net/shared/zptoogj9nl

Warhammer – Orchestral Choral Electronic Hybrid – http://www.box.net/shared/k7s7zkevvt

Important Mission – Orchestral Choral Electronic Hybrid – http://www.box.net/shared/z9hcumzysq

Hope that is useful. It may be overwhelming, but the simple fact of the matter is that the top composers have EVERYTHING . I’ve seen John Powell’s and Hans Zimmer’s studio and can tell you that on top of their own custom recordings, they have everything.

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jhunger says

Hey Tim,

I have Komplete 6 and just upgraded to 7, but alas I have had to pull down my studio temporarily to make way for a remodel (which means I haven’t been active on AJ for nearly a month—aagh!). So I can’t speak much to 7 except for some quick tests I did before ripping eveything apart.

That said, I am a big fan of Komplete 6, at least for what I use it for. For instance, my music (and I believe much of yours) is guitar based with maybe some keys added as flavor in the background. The acoustic pianos probably wouldn’t stand up to something like Synthogy’s Ivory if you’re playing DeBussy, but if you’re just backing pop music they sound great and there are quite a few options in the package. I really like the Elektrik Piano (I think part of 6 and 7 now, though I originally bought it separately) as well. And if you’re into amp simulations, the Guitar Rig is awesome. In 7 you also get Reflektor (convolution reverb) which is pretty decent. Some of the other stuff like FM8 and Reaktor I haven’t explored. I do also make use of the Kontakt libraries (some decent basses and other stuff), though I’m sure there are better sounding orchestral libraries out there.

Anyway, the sheer amount of tools you get for the price is astounding, and the UI (IMO) is downright easy to use. So yeah, I’d recommend it. One thing to think about – check out places like Musician’s Friend, because especially around the holidays they’ll have some 10 – 15% discounts or more on software. Another thing that could save you money is to look for an old version of Komplete and then purchase the upgrade.

Oh yeah (I couldn’t resist) – I’m with you on the Mac/Windows thing. Macs have a lot going for them (since they’re basically Intel/UNIX now), but after owning one for better part of a year I still find their window rendering and behavior really frustrating compared to Windows.

Now I am going to duck…

—Joel

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OhmLab says
Here we go….

Great feedback and insights @garethcoker! thanks for taking the time. Pretty informative stuff.

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palmtreep says

I can’t say anything about Komplete 7 but out of the software that I do have, I pretty much use all of Eastwest’s virtual instruments. And ProjectSAM’s stuff is really nice as well.

Eastwest just came out with a new string instrument “Hollywood Strings”. So far, it sounds very good in my opinion. If I had the money, I would buy it..but..I don’t :P

EWQL – Hollywood Strings

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