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Pirenko says

Hi everyone!

I just wanted to clarify that we do not want to allow multiple versions of the same theme to be sold for the same platform unless they have distinctly different purposes and have a significant set of differences. So a “lite” theme vs “standard” theme would not be allowed. However, an eCommerce version of a “standard” theme, built more specifically for eCommerce functionality, etc. would be allowed to be sold separately from the “standard” theme.

Taking this approach is beneficial for the whole community vs prohibiting across the board.

I hope this helps clarify, everyone!
Here we go again… :(
I’m sorry, but if Woocommerce or some special feature is added to a theme why don’t you just review the price? This has happened with some of the current best sellers (Avada and Salient at least) and it seems to me that it is a better approach.
I mean, the number of themes being released is already higher than we authors would like, so why leave the door opened for more “new” themes? And like I said before, what is the problem of just reviewing the price?
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iHelp says

a “lite” theme vs “standard” theme would not be allowed. However, an eCommerce version of a “standard” theme, built more specifically for eCommerce functionality, etc. would be allowed to be sold separately from the “standard” theme.

It would be interesting to know where the line would be drawn here. It sounds pretty blurry and I’m sure it will cause confusion if there’s not a list of features that need to be included in order to define an item as eligible for sale.

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agusmu says


a “lite” theme vs “standard” theme would not be allowed. However, an eCommerce version of a “standard” theme, built more specifically for eCommerce functionality, etc. would be allowed to be sold separately from the “standard” theme.
It would be interesting to know where the line would be drawn here. It sounds pretty blurry and I’m sure it will cause confusion if there’s not a list of features that need to be included in order to define an item as eligible for sale.

I think the latest contest describe it enough, you can see “advanced integration” criteria for WordPress eCommerce platform.

  • Inclusion of customized shortcodes, widgets, sidebars, and/or templates utilizing the eCommerce platform functionality.
  • Extended functionality and theming for eCommerce relevant features.
  • Integration and theming of additional eCommerce platform specific plugins/extensions.
  • Unique designs that serve a real market/industry

This is my own interpretation, btw… :-)

Source: http://themeforest.net/forums/thread/envatos-most-wanted-wordpress-ecommerce-themes/117050

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iHelp says



a “lite” theme vs “standard” theme would not be allowed. However, an eCommerce version of a “standard” theme, built more specifically for eCommerce functionality, etc. would be allowed to be sold separately from the “standard” theme.
It would be interesting to know where the line would be drawn here. It sounds pretty blurry and I’m sure it will cause confusion if there’s not a list of features that need to be included in order to define an item as eligible for sale.

I think the latest contest describe it enough, you can see “advanced integration” criteria for WordPress eCommerce platform.

  • Inclusion of customized shortcodes, widgets, sidebars, and/or templates utilizing the eCommerce platform functionality.
  • Extended functionality and theming for eCommerce relevant features.
  • Integration and theming of additional eCommerce platform specific plugins/extensions.
  • Unique designs that serve a real market/industry

This is my own interpretation, btw… :-)

Source: http://themeforest.net/forums/thread/envatos-most-wanted-wordpress-ecommerce-themes/117050

Ah I see, that’s a start. I would have problems understanding what exactly is “Extended functionality and theming” or “Unique designs”… I don’t know, that sounds unmotivated and very generalised. To me, it probably could be summarized as “well, it needs to work with the eCommerce and just look integrated”.

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agusmu says

Ah I see, that’s a start. I would have problems understanding what exactly is “Extended functionality and theming” or “Unique designs”… I don’t know, that sounds unmotivated and very generalised. To me, it probably could be summarized as “well, it needs to work with the eCommerce and just look integrated”.

I see that this case is specific for WordPress eCommerce platform. It doesn’t mean that bbpress version, buddypress version, etc can be released as separate themes. It is different case.

You know what, we can easily say that all well-coded WP Themes should be “compatible” with WooCommerce without any code changes.

But, some authors then customize the styles to match with their theme, it falls to basic integration.

Then, some authors extends it by custom shortcodes, custom widgets, custom features, etc, that specific to a eCommerce platform. it falls to to advanced integration.

In my opinion, themes with only basic integration should NOT be released as different theme. But themes with advanced integration are POSSIBLE to be released as different theme. The reason are simple, UPDATE & SUPPORT. It is not easy to maintain a SUPER theme that has advanced integration to some eCommerce solution at the same time. So, releasing as different theme can be a good reason for this.

Don’t worry, it doesn’t mean everyone will release similar themes for every eCommerce solution with advanced integration. It means that you have to be a master to understand everything and you have to be ready with customer supports for different platforms. Many authors seem to choose WooCommerce because it is the most popular, user friendly, and developer-friendly at this time.

In the end, TF reviewer will be the final judge when you submit it. And I hope jremick can come with detail clarification to make it clear for everyone here to minimize grey area. :)

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tommusrhodus says

But themes with advanced integration are POSSIBLE to be released as different theme.

I think that the problem with this though is that buyers are missing out.

Let’s say I release a new theme, it sells well, buyers ask “eCommerce?” and I say “Yep, we’re releasing an eCommerce version separate to this one”

So buyers then have to buy 2 themes if they liked the original enough to buy it and hoped that eCommerce was on the roadmap for the original theme.

Overall this seems a very grey area, platform to platform makes sense, no problem, but upgrade / downgrades within the same platform and the same theme seems like a risk to a flooded marketplace.

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agusmu says


But themes with advanced integration are POSSIBLE to be released as different theme.

I think that the problem with this though is that buyers are missing out.

Let’s say I release a new theme, it sells well, buyers ask “eCommerce?” and I say “Yep, we’re releasing an eCommerce version separate to this one”

So buyers then have to buy 2 themes if they liked the original enough to buy it and hoped that eCommerce was on the roadmap for the original theme.

Overall this seems a very grey area, platform to platform makes sense, no problem, but upgrade / downgrades within the same platform and the same theme seems like a risk to a flooded marketplace.

Hi Tommus, your example is a little bit different with my post above. Sorry if my post was not very clear. Jremick case applies to different eCommerce platforms. But for your case:

Standard Theme = A theme, Standard Theme + WooCommerce = B theme

I will also say NO for this. Because A theme will be a “lite” theme for sure…

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tommusrhodus says

Hi Tommus, your example is a little bit different with my post above. Sorry if my post was not very clear. Jremick case applies to different eCommerce platforms. But for your case:

Standard Theme = A theme, Standard Theme + WooCommerce = B theme

I will also say NO for this. Because A theme will be a “lite” theme for sure…

Ahh ok, ignore me, I’m clearly tired :)

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arrowthemes says

I guess this also applies, not only to WordPress, but to all other categories as well. For example, the latest Drupal template is a modified version of the same template the author had released as a one-page template. IMHO that doesn’t justify one to build a new separate item – correct me if I’m wrong.

Like scott and Jremick said, it’d be good to have a clear cut definition of what is and is not allowed.

regards

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contempoinc says

That would be ridiculous to allow two versions I mean the price difference is only 10 bucks. I could go through most of my past themes and add a style sheet and a few functions and flood the marketplace with “new” themes. Literally would take about all of an hour per theme.

Honestly allowing this I could see nothing but certain death for Themeforest, it’s already flooded with copy cats daily, don’t make it worse.

I can see allowing the same theme but built on another platform like ghost, joomla, magneto, etc…but not slight derivatives on the same.

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