182 posts Enjoy!
  • Elite Author: Sold more than $75,000 on Envato Market
  • Has sold $75,000+ on Envato Market and is now an Elite Author
  • Had an item featured on Envato Market
  • Won a Most Wanted contest
+6 more
XanderRock says

Hi,

I’ve been following the forum and asked once but been told there is still time. Now the time has come.

What will happen to the external premium plugin’s license?

There are plenty of very useful premium plugins like sliders. And some (in CodeCanyon and outside) only allows you to include into your single commercial project as a packaged version. Not the standalone plugin version.

Also, developer licenses only apply to single theme project. Using it in another theme, including it as a regular plugin will be againts to the license. We must be somehow allowed to use these kind of plugins in our themes by including their packaged version.

Tentatively November 2013?

Does that mean, any submission before November will be reviewed with old rules? What happens rejected items? Cause queue takes a week to be reviewed and if you upload 3 times, you’ve passed three weeks. Which also means, you passed to the new rules date. But it’s not our fault. Queue is overloaded and when reviewer doesn’t give you any clue on rejection, it takes even longer.

That would be really useful if any authorized person can give a solution based answer. Because we don’t want to get into trouble with licenses

1552 posts How's the surf doing?
  • Nominated Community Superstar of the month
  • Elite Author: Sold more than $75,000 on Envato Market
  • Has been part of the Envato Community for over 3 years
  • Had an item featured on Envato Market
+7 more
tommusrhodus says

You add the .zip for the premium plugin directly in your theme files, and activate it with this;

http://tgmpluginactivation.com

As for new rules, you shouldn’t be trying to force an item in before the new rules take place with lacklustre code, instead you should be hitting all the proper code standards now, or your item will simply be disabled during the re-review process, if it passes the first review at all that is.

TL:DR – TGM Plugin Activation to add plugins for your users, get going on the new requirements now :)

182 posts Enjoy!
  • Elite Author: Sold more than $75,000 on Envato Market
  • Has sold $75,000+ on Envato Market and is now an Elite Author
  • Had an item featured on Envato Market
  • Won a Most Wanted contest
+6 more
XanderRock says

Hi TommusRhodus,

Thanks for your answer. But I guess you didn’t understand my question. I use TGM since my first theme. I know the way it works. But if you buy a developer license slider, they mostly only allows you to use their packaged version. This way, they know their slider only used in single theme. If we include it as plugin (which is totally againts to license) people will be able to use it another theme. Even more, what will happen if someone buys 15 plugin and includes them all in one theme? Plugin authors will lose a lot of money. We must be somehow allowed to integrate premium plugins as packaged version not as standalone plugin.

And the submission time is also another thing important. A slider mostly part of the feel and look (as described what theme should be) and if its a premium plugin which can not be included as standalone plugin, you need to be approved with old rules to get going. And according to the time description saying “Tentatively” that should calculate the review time and queue. So I want to learn if any submission before means, your first theme submission? Because sometimes its really hard to understand reviewers.

1552 posts How's the surf doing?
  • Nominated Community Superstar of the month
  • Elite Author: Sold more than $75,000 on Envato Market
  • Has been part of the Envato Community for over 3 years
  • Had an item featured on Envato Market
+7 more
tommusrhodus says

Hey Xander,

Sorry if my answer didn’t come across properly, there just seems to be a few authors recently saying things like ‘how can I get my theme in before the code requirements go up!’

Ok; 1. Plugin activation. With the new requirements it is not allowed to include the plugin directly in your theme, this means if your premium plugin developer will not allow the standalone version to be distributed, then you will not be able to use this plugin with your new themes anymore. A required plugin has to either be distributed as a standalone with the theme, or included in the theme files and activated with TGM from it’s standalone form. There’s no getting around this, license or not.

2. New Standards Regarding Plugins: Again, there’s really no benefit for trying to get the item through with the plugin built into the theme here, because if your theme does get disabled later on, and you’re not allowed to distribute the plugin files directly after that, then you’re going to have some disappointed buyers who suddenly don’t have the slider in their theme anymore.

182 posts Enjoy!
  • Elite Author: Sold more than $75,000 on Envato Market
  • Has sold $75,000+ on Envato Market and is now an Elite Author
  • Had an item featured on Envato Market
  • Won a Most Wanted contest
+6 more
XanderRock says

Hi TommusRhodus,

I understood that from the way you answered :) I wasn’t asking technically.

When I asked this question in the New Submission Thread, I’ve been told by a staff there is still time on the license matter. There wasn’t any specific answer to the license. So I wondered if they made a specific answer for this. And if they did, where is that answer.

Not being able to include a premium plugin will cause two big issues.

1 : Themeforest will be a closed community. We won’t be able to use any premium plugin outside of here. And it will slow down our technology development. And we will be seeing the same sliders same froms same everything on every theme. I don’t think thats a good way to go.

2 : Let’s say an author purchased 15 plugins from CodeCanyon. Slider, Page Builder, Form Builder, Menu, Team Member, Stats etc. And when someone buys your theme they will be buying all of these plugins as “standalone”. So you just sold a bundle with 15 plugins and theme. Plugin author is not earning any money from your sale. But since it’s their plugin as standalone, whenever it doesn’t work with another theme, their support will be overloaded. And buyers will not choose to buy single plugin for 20 but buy 15 plugins and a theme for 45. Thats a total chaos.

We sell premium items here, we should consider license first. Cause you can easily turn a theme’s shortcodes and CPT into plugins but what about license? There should be a specific and certain answer to this from an authorized person.

Helpful Information

  • Please read our community guidelines. Self promotion and discussion of piracy is not allowed.
  • Open a support ticket if you would like specific help with your account, deposits or purchases.
  • Item Support by authors is optional and may vary. Please see the Support tab on each item page.

Most of all, enjoy your time here. Thank you for being a valued Envato community member.

Post Reply

Format your entry with some basic HTML. Read the Full Details, or here is a refresher:

<strong></strong> to make things bold
<em></em> to emphasize
<ul><li> or <ol><li> to make lists
<h3> or <h4> to make headings
<pre></pre> for code blocks
<code></code> for a few words of code
<a></a> for links
<img> to paste in an image (it'll need to be hosted somewhere else though)
<blockquote></blockquote> to quote somebody

:grin: :shocked: :cry: Complete List of Smiley Codes

by
by
by
by
by
by