Oh really!?

The fun time comes when you create a template – sell it on TF and then TF remove your item because an end client sees your template and says “hey that is a rip of my site I got an agency to create for me” – when actually the so-called agency just bought your theme and didn’t mention to their client that it’s a template they bought.

Yup true story people – happened to me last year with my first item after being for sale for a few months – funny thing was that I HAD TO PROVE I designed it – which I could by using way back machine to show the new site in question was created about a month after my item was on sale

But honestly – if you sell templates / themes etc – nothing you can do – up to you to decide how you feel about it but it’s basically one of those unwritten consequences of selling stock – in ANY format.

Great story! I’m sure there are dozens of these reports coming in to TF support. I wonder about the reaction of the guy that paid an agency $5,000 + for his “custom” design only to learn it’s a $30 template

My opinion you are wasting time discusing about this, if you sell themes, the buyier can do anything with that. If i bought a car and i want to put over the logo, my own name, i can, and nobody can say anything.

In my last theme developed for a design agency, i leave the footer copy text as:

designed by …..

In order to let him put there it´s own name or whatever. I don´t care, they are paying for that and that´s the main reason such a site like themeforest exists.

And also, we are talking about themes that uses an open source platform like wordpress. So you make money from a free thing!! Imagine you can´t remove the Wordpress at the bottom?? Do you thing this market will be the same? I don´t think so. So, same is applyed for themes.

And for many normal users, to read on bottom something like “design and powered by bla bla” could mean that “bla bla” also create de cms, because not everybody knows wp or that is an open source thing. Same if you use some draw of photo, “bla bla” also do that?

So, providing support will speak good about you for future purchases from that guy. Take it or leave it, but that´s the rules on this game.

The best you can do is put your credits on the internal functions, on jquery scripts, on the style.css. This data can be read by anyone that works on web things, but will be hidden for normal users.

Just my opinion, and this is a very old phrase: “client is always right” (Even if they’re not, because they have the money to pay for your service)

Some of your points don’t make sense. What difference does it make if the buyer changes the name of the “designed and developed” if the end user is stupid enough to believe whoever made the theme also made the CMS ? And not to mention, I give credit where it’s due—that is, I say “Powered by Wordpress” in the footer because I clearly indicate that I did not create it. Very different things there.

ok lets say that there should be author credit. so for example I by this:

random choice item: http://graphicriver.net/item/business-card/42866

and the author wants his credit on the printed version on the right butom like: “designed by Blinky Palermo”

that would be very funny

ok lets say that there should be author credit. so for example I by this:

random choice item: http://graphicriver.net/item/business-card/42866

and the author wants his credit on the printed version on the right butom like: “designed by Blinky Palermo”

that would be very funny

Pretty much. It’s a “Work For Hire” arrangement folks. Get over it.

ok lets say that there should be author credit. so for example I by this:

random choice item: http://graphicriver.net/item/business-card/42866

and the author wants his credit on the printed version on the right butom like: “designed by Blinky Palermo”

that would be very funny

Unfortunately you seem to have the wrong end of the stick: the authors aren’t annoyed over people removing the ‘designed by’ details, they’re annoyed over customers claiming they designed and developed the themes they buy.

(Unless I’m reading it all wrong)

ok lets say that there should be author credit. so for example I by this:

random choice item: http://graphicriver.net/item/business-card/42866

and the author wants his credit on the printed version on the right butom like: “designed by Blinky Palermo”

that would be very funny

Unfortunately you seem to have the wrong end of the stick: the authors aren’t annoyed over people removing the ‘designed by’ details, they’re annoyed over customers claiming they designed and developed the themes they buy.

(Unless I’m reading it all wrong)

Nope, you’re correct. I have a feeling about half of everyone who replied to this thread read it wrong.

its not wrong reading its just diferent opinions regarding this kind of (stock) market. Its pretty gray aria unless specified by some rools of marketplace.

I find it extremely ironic and downright hypocritical even having this conversation.

If any designer truly agrees with the thread starter, then I’d appreciate never seeing again all the list of credits at the bottom of each theme explaining where the slider, icons, and other assets for the site came from. I know I know, your point is that you credit them. That’s great and all, but it’s not always possible or practical to do so. It’s just a fact. Is saying they designed it a lie? So they use your framework and base design. Did their pages get magically filled in with their content by you?

So If I buy a kit car, drop an sweet engine in it and paint it, throw custom rims on it, are you saying after 3 months of putting the prefabbed pieces together that I didn’t build my new car?

P.S. The ONLY reason it does no good to pirate themesforest themes is because of the outstanding author support (that IS UNFORTUNATELY NECESSARY due to bugs and non-user related error). Discontinue that and you’ll turn into templatemonster overnight with cracking groups releasing every last website on here. So cut support and you can kiss this place goodbye.

I find it extremely ironic and downright hypocritical even having this conversation.

If any designer truly agrees with the thread starter, then I’d appreciate never seeing again all the list of credits at the bottom of each theme explaining where the slider, icons, and other assets for the site came from. I know I know, your point is that you credit them. That’s great and all, but it’s not always possible or practical to do so. It’s just a fact. Is saying they designed it a lie? So they use your framework and base design. Did their pages get magically filled in with their content by you?

So If I buy a kit car, drop an sweet engine in it and paint it, throw custom rims on it, are you saying after 3 months of putting the prefabbed pieces together that I didn’t build my new car?

P.S. The ONLY reason it does no good to pirate themesforest themes is because of the outstanding author support (that IS UNFORTUNATELY NECESSARY due to bugs and non-user related error). Discontinue that and you’ll turn into templatemonster overnight with cracking groups releasing every last website on here. So cut support and you can kiss this place goodbye.

Alright, I will claim Nivo Slider as my own creation in my next theme because I put my OWN images in there.

Flawed logic, my friend.

I’m not saying keep my name in the copyright. Just remove it completely… don’t change my name to yours just because you put 3 posts in. Posts = content. Content != design.

Right on, we disagree. Just be warned, if I buy one of your themes and put upwards of 80 hours into like I usually do, my name goes in big bold at the bottom and that’s just the way it be Cheers.