Agree entirely. Couldn’t have said it better myself.
... But Envato could do a much better job at representing all authors here by pricing themes more appropriately. We should be asking for better pricing, not necessarily higher theme regulation, because as we all know that will never happen.
Exactly. This what needs to be discussed more to avoid complex regulations / restrictions.Everyone may remember there was a price increment tool introduced for Elite authors. That approach can resolve this issue upto certain extent, since many authors would have no problem raising the price upto 2 or 1.5 times a minimal functional item offers. Sadly the price increment tool discontinued – may be it deserves to be allowed again with some necessary restrictions if preferred.
Personally I don’t think that a simple wider spread of prices will do much to change the situation. The real problem is that Envato has taken too many steps back from it’s duties as regulator and judge in this marketplace. The thing is that this is no longer a proper, decent marketplace, but a turkish bazar where everyone shouts as load as it can, gives you countless discounts, even their “soul” just for that sale – and this is ok if you are selling spices, carpets, meat, fish, food, bread, etc., but NOT when you are selling products thought to be based on good design, creativity, UX, and so on. Seriously this is NOT cool.As long as there is no curator in the house, with a vision on what his “gallery space” should be exhibiting and what NOT, there isn’t much hope.
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VF saidNo, that won’t fix it, it will only ruin it for those authors. If you put $100 as the price for your item, do you think someone will pay extra $40 or $45 just to get your theme instead of another 150-in-1 theme? Unless this is forced by Envato, manual adjustation by some users won’t make any difference
... But Envato could do a much better job at representing all authors here by pricing themes more appropriately.
We should be asking for better pricing, not necessarily higher theme regulation, because as we all know that will never happen.
Exactly. This is what needs to be discussed more to avoid complex regulations / restrictions.Everyone may remember there was a price increment tool introduced for Elite authors. That approach can resolve this issue upto certain extent, since many authors would have no problem raising the price upto 2 or 1.5 times a minimal functional item offers. Sadly the price increment tool discontinued – may be it deserves to be allowed again with some necessary restrictions if preferred.
It is Envato that has to raise prices for all multipurpose themes with all those variations . Not the single author. The single author will never do it.
Agree with this as it falls in line with what I was saying earlier. But Envato need not stop at this. This is just only one step in regaining some control of the marketplace.
I think Envato’s put itself into a bad position, it was already a marketplace which sold themes at relatively cheap prices, and over time themes are now bundled with multiple components which makes these items even more ridiculously good value for money and as a result Envato is becoming less of an innovative creative site, but more of “value for money” type of site. This forces authors to be less innovative and creative and focus more on features and value just to stay competitive.
It’s also becoming less easier for single authors to compete and it now takes a team of several authors to put in the hours to build these themes, and also not to mention the support needed with these elaborate feature packed items.
Envato seems to have it’s head in the clouds still and thinks this is not really an issue, but if you read forums and reviews outside of Envato it paints a different picture about Envato, and that it is really ruining the theme industry as a whole with their quantity over quality standards.And authors have been complaining here about these topics for years, yet no significant changes happen. It almost feels like ThemeForest has been abandoned in terms of major improvements, I feel it’s reached it’s peak and it’s all down hill for here. The focus is really on other start ups like Envato Studio and the next big idea. Envato just wants to keep expanding and extend its reach as far into the creative industry as it can, but it’s starting to spread itself out too thinly, it’s not listening to what authors want or buyers either, it’s no longer a fair competitive environment anymore, it’s difficult to navigate content, the search is poor and eventually the bubble is going to burst and other marketplaces will close that gap which Envato is not filling right now.
+1 for this… yeah true. i also searched for this reviews and found out lots and lots of those reviews. and there is some different picture outside for sure.
but here one problem is that buyers dont know much about other markets. so for now if envato will not take much action against this price and issues. they will loose their charm totally.