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kops says

I had to pick out a cart for a client who wanted a fairly simple store with a couple of custom bits and bobs. I chose Opencart on the back of a few reviews and having poked around the backend and seen how simple it was to manage. Additionally, it is a good looking front end out of the box.

2 major issues. Firslty is the complete and utter lack of a support structure. You post on the forum and just pray that the post is answered by the couple of people that seem to run the whole show (one of whom runs a popular plugin shop)

Secondly, and most worryingly, is that if you want to do anything that isn’t included in the standard install, you can end up paying a heck of a lot in commercial plugins for what should be standard features. More often than not, these plugins overwrite core files which means upgrading Opencart is out of the quesiton without a load of hassle, updating plugins and crossing your fingers that the plugin data is retained.

I’m so disappointed – I had really high hopes for opencart, especially as it has a UK bias but the above, coupled with basic funcitonality weirdness like extra product images hidden behind a tab has left me panicking as I need a good looking open source cart.

Can anyone suggest somethign that is a little more fully featured, I can feel safe upgrading and looks great out of the box? It has to be easy for the client to figure out back end.

TLDR : Opencart disappoints – suggest something else pls! :)

Jon.

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kegler68 says

Here is a site dedicated to reviewing what you’re after: http://php.opensourcecms.com/scripts/show.php?catid=3&category=eCommerce :)

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EireStudio says

I had to pick out a cart for a client who wanted a fairly simple store with a couple of custom bits and bobs. I chose Opencart on the back of a few reviews and having poked around the backend and seen how simple it was to manage. Additionally, it is a good looking front end out of the box.

2 major issues. Firslty is the complete and utter lack of a support structure. You post on the forum and just pray that the post is answered by the couple of people that seem to run the whole show (one of whom runs a popular plugin shop)

Same with wordpress, nothg new here.

Secondly, and most worryingly, is that if you want to do anything that isn’t included in the standard install, you can end up paying a heck of a lot in commercial plugins for what should be standard features. More often than not, these plugins overwrite core files which means upgrading Opencart is out of the quesiton without a load of hassle, updating plugins and crossing your fingers that the plugin data is retained.

I agree to a point, but OC is still quite new and being worked on all the time. 1.5 is just getting better and I suspect that as each new version gets released, those plugin features might get.included in the core.

I’m so disappointed – I had really high hopes for opencart, especially as it has a UK bias but the above, coupled with basic funcitonality weirdness like extra product images hidden behind a tab has left me panicking as I need a good looking open source cart.

Can anyone suggest somethign that is a little more fully featured, I can feel safe upgrading and looks great out of the box? It has to be easy for the client to figure out back end.

TLDR : Opencart disappoints – suggest something else pls! :)

Jon.

I will be sticking with OC as I can see the potential. It reminds me of WordPress in early versions, now look at it today :)

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PrestaShop++

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GravityDept says

Magento is packed with core features, but it slims down very well.

On support, you shouldn’t really expect any from an open-source project (or frankly a commercial product as soon as you customize it). Forums are intended as a “help each other” resource.

If that’s the case you want to select the project with the most implementations (most knowledge created/shared). For open-source eCommerce that’s Magento.

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theAlThemist says

Hello Kops,

I am “playing” with OpenCart quite often and I cannot agree what you said.

1. “Firslty is the complete and utter lack of a support structure” – Isn’t it the same with all Open Source applications? Especially the new ones? However, the OpenCart community could be a great source of help, but there are still too few people familiar enough with the system.

2. “More often than not, these plugins overwrite core files which means upgrading Opencart is out of the question without a load of hassle” – this is not exactly the truth. You are partially right – if you use the easy way of modifying the system you could easily end up with un-upgradable (god, what a word (excuse my english)) application.

May be you didn’t noticed the same guy (Qphoria) that runs the “popular extensions store” made a great platform for extending the system without touching the core files – it is called “the VQ mod”. ;)

As RedHenry already said, the system is still quite new and of course there are a lot of issues, but they are constantly improving and fixing everything (except the bug in the search function when mod_rewrite is enabled :D ).

Now, the good news (there are always good news). OpenCart 1.5 would make a huge difference and I think some people would be really surprised. Some for good, and others not (especially the direct competitors).

Don’t get me wrong – I am not a lawyer of the OpenCart development team and I am not connected with them in ANY way. There are still a number of problems and issues with the system (like any other system – not only Open Source).

I am just a person with a bit more extended knowledge about the OC system and the news “behind the scene”, and believe me – there is a great future for it.

So far, one of the biggest problems is that there are not many people familiar with the MVCL based system structure, but even this would be dramatically changed with the release of OC 1 .5/1.5.1

On the other hand, people love it for its simplicity and easiness to work with (for a basic e-shop). It wasn’t meant for professionals and the early versions covers exactly what the average beginner needs.

I am quite sure you’ll change your mind in just a month.

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kops says

Thanks for all the replies. I really want to like opencart. It seems a great balance of functionality and usability.

I’m sticking with it for the time being as I don’t have time for Magento’s learning curve and will certianly check out the vqmod as it’s exactly what I need!

J

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TimInOz says

Poor sausage ;-)

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mariepizzer says

Thanks for all the replies. I really want to like opencart. It seems a great balance of functionality and usability.

I’m sticking with it for the time being as I don’t have time for Magento’s learning curve and will certianly check out the vqmod as it’s exactly what I need!

J

Hello, Kops. I want to use OpenCart, but your comments made me doubt it. What do you think of OC now, 2 years later? Thanks.

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kops says

Hi Marie,

We’ve used Opencart for a couple of projects since and the current versions are a vast improvement on the 1.4 versions of a couple of years ago. If your client wants any, even vaguely, different functionality, the odds are that you will be paying out for extensions.

Having said that, we tried Woocommerce recently and ended up spending over £300 on commercial plugins and a further £1500 on custom development.

So it seems whichever cart you go with, there will be X amount of functionality out the box and everything else costs money. There doesn’t seem to be a ‘Wordpress mentality’ where most of the the extra functionality you need is available for free in the plugin repository.

Still haven’t tried Magento – it seems a lot more fully specced out the box but we jsut don’t have the time to get to grips with learning curve for building or customising the software.

J

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