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neilhumecharlton says

Hi There

I’ve been developing for the web for over 10 years and I’ve got a successful business doing so. I came here and to [url removed by mod] to see about selling some html / wordpress themes.

I’ve been put off by the completely controlling rules that seem to be in place for the authors for example:

1. We only get 50 – 70% of the theme sale value.

2. We are not allowed to sell them anywhere else

I find both of these extremely oppressive. Does anyone else feel this way?

What are other authors views on this ?

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sevenspark says

As a new author, it can seem frustrating. But I find these terms to be completely fair.

1. These are some of the best rates in the industry. Envato has overhead, and they provide a big service. They handle payment gateways, provide server bandwidth, host your files, provide server maintenance and uptime, handle advertising, and most importantly: offer a ready-made customer base. Files here get way more exposure than you could hope to have on your own site without spending huge amounts of time on advertising. While it’s disheartening to share part of your profits, you need to understand where that’s going; Envato earns their cut.

Also, they offer an affiliate program, which receives 30% of the purchase. This has 2 implications: (1) when an affiliate sale is made, Envato may earn $0 and (2) once you reach 70%, you have the opportunity to essentially earn 100% commission on sales you refer from your site.

2. This keeps the marketplace’s value high by ensuring uniqueness. Without this rule we would all suffer, potentially leading to a price war with other marketplaces and devaluing our products. However, if you find it oppressive, you can opt to be a “non-exclusive” author and sell your files elsewhere without restriction.

In the end, you have to go where you feel comfortable. If you feel oppressed by these rules, you can always start your own theme shop :)

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mabuc says

Hi There

I’ve been developing for the web for over 10 years and I’ve got a successful business doing so. I came here and to [url removed by mod] to see about selling some html / wordpress themes.

I’ve been put off by the completely controlling rules that seem to be in place for the authors for example:

1. We only get 50 – 70% of the theme sale value.

2. We are not allowed to sell them anywhere else

I find both of these extremely oppressive. Does anyone else feel this way?

What are other authors views on this ?

1. 50-70 its fair IMO .. both parties have share.
2. yes if you are exclusive author. You have an option “non-exclusive”

I find both of these extremely oppressive. Does anyone else feel this way?
– NO I ’m not :)
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ThemeProvince says

Think of 30% as the marketing fee.

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cmt says

If you find the terms oppressive, just go to the removed link website and sell there. :)

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iKreativ says

Hi There

I’ve been developing for the web for over 10 years and I’ve got a successful business doing so. I came here and to [url removed by mod] to see about selling some html / wordpress themes.

I’ve been put off by the completely controlling rules that seem to be in place for the authors for example:

1. We only get 50 – 70% of the theme sale value.

2. We are not allowed to sell them anywhere else

I find both of these extremely oppressive. Does anyone else feel this way?

What are other authors views on this ?

Then don’t sell here then…you have a choice :)

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neilhumecharlton says

Then don’t sell here then…you have a choice :)

Thank you for pointing out how free market capitalism works, but please try and answer the question.

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ThemeProvince says


Then don’t sell here then…you have a choice :)
Thank you for pointing out how free market capitalism works, but please try and answer the question.

He kinda did though.

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crozer says

You’re missing the key component: marketing. Try creating your own marketplace and sell your themes there – you will realize how long it will take you to become at least noticeable.

On Envato, I still find it impressive how fast pages, posts and products get indexed on search engines. Sometimes I am writing something completely unrelated to Envato (the definition of a word for example), and yet the first results are themes from ThemeForest which match that definition. Amazing to say the least.

You’re also forgetting that, if you happen to become a successful author, you will pretty much receive 10-50 daily emails from agencies, clients and overall entrepreneurs who want to hire you full- or part-time. Where did they find you? That’s right, here.

And last but not least, take a look around and see what other marketplaces offer their authors as their earnings-rate.

Good luck in making a decision.
Chris ;)

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quickandeasy says

I sell mere print templates, so my sales volume has to be much higher to hit 70%.

I could set my own shop up online and keep 100% of the sales if I wanted.

However, then I’d have to host all my own files, manage all my sales and payment systems, do my own promotion (ok I do some of this anyway) and deal with all the technicalities of running a complex website.

Or, I can just upload here and the ride is smooth, simple and hassle free :)

I’d rather have 50-70% of something, than 100% of nothing.

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