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(Locked) Opt-out for licenses on Profile

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collis says

As you probably know last week we added the new 10 project licence to our marketplaces allowing buyers to pay 3x price for 10x usage. We’re going to be adding more licenses over time, and those licenses will apply to different sites / categories.

For example we will soon be adding a “Web Services” license which is specifically for site templates and wordpress themes. It’s going to allow people building their own blog platforms to buy themes and then provide them to users.

Anyhow today we’ve added an Opt-Out / Opt-In checkbox for each license type we add to the marketplaces. You can find it by going to:

Account > Edit > Item Licences

Note that even if you don’t have any items that a licence applies to (e.g. you don’t have any website templates) the licence will still appear there just in case.

The default setting is to be opted-in to all licences.

Thanks all!

Posted 3 years ago VIA GraphicRiver | Permalink
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contempoinc says

Excellent, this is why I love Envato you guys listen to your users

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Mastergreed says

Oh, great! I’m going to take a close loon now.

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VF says

Great option! But it would be nice if allowed to set different license options for individual items.

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collis says
It would be nice if allowed to set different license options for individual items.

hey VF, yep I’ve got that on the potential feature list for the future. This option was quick and simple to deploy and easy to use. As licences become more and more important we’ll start allocating it more feature development time

Posted 3 years ago VIA GraphicRiver | Permalink
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sike says
It would be nice if allowed to set different license options for individual items.
hey VF, yep I’ve got that on the potential feature list for the future. This option was quick and simple to deploy and easy to use. As licences become more and more important we’ll start allocating it more feature development time
Sounds nice, thanks the dev guys. :)
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SparkyFlash says

That’s very nice feature. Thanks, Collis and the dev team! I agree with VF, though, that might be handy to opt in/out different licenses for different items.

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thomas07 says

i agree with VectorFlower, especially if it comes to web templates and items like wordpress themes. I personaly feel, this is somehow “out of business ethics” to make the “Web Services” licence option available. You cannot let a buyer just buy something and further distribute it or become an reseller on their own sites unless the amound specified for that licence is really worth. Not sure if you are aware, but licences for such products under the conditions you specified apply only with “unique purchaise” licences. This automaticaly translates to the following, the buyer own full rights over the item and is free to use the way they want…they may resell it of give free away at their sites as gifts ect. Prices of such licences are not under $2000…check out some other major template providers to verify for your self.

I also feel the current feature you have for 10 licences is somehow off, yes you may need to make it so that it sounds “inviting offer” to buyers, but not at that rates…or just narrow the # of licences you offer within the funny price. When you seat there and think how to make all this more benefetical for Envato and discovering new “sales methods”, you schould also think of your authors benefits.

I think before you make such further steps, you schould educate your self better about licencing and discuss with your source to take their opinions…i am not sure many authors here will really love your stunning ideas.

Designers…you guys schould also better educate your self and know your own rights over the work you produce…know what you sell and know what is the actual market value of your product.

...i hope my message will make some sense here.

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DaniMun says

Great idea, Collis! I really hope the buyers use the items according to their specific license type. But then again… there’s no way for either FD staff, or us, the authors, to control this :( well, either way the licensing options are great!

Oh, and just out of curiosity, what’s the correct spelling of the word “license”? Is it license or licence?

Ohh… nevermind that, I’ve found the answer to my question :D

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thomas07 says

This is not an great idea Dani (and all others who agree to the idea)...this is an terrible idea. I know this have been trown out by some authors here on the marketplace (probably some of the TF site authors) since this model already exist on some sites that offer similar products. Lets take it from wordpress theme perespective (or any template design)...some other major wp theme providers (out of envato) have this or similar licencing options on their sites. This is totaly fine simply of the fact that the produced items rights belong to them and they can offer such “licence optipons” as another sales strategy to increase their revenue.

Here at envato marketplaces the things run just different…envato marketplaces are powered by user generated content which content rights belongs to their own creators (especialy authors who are Exclusive Sellers!!). This translates to the following, no one have rights over your items except yourself and the agreement is between the author (vendor) and envato (the seller) without to let any 3th party (in that case the buyer that will receive such fancy licences) within or arround the agreement.

Even the current “buy 10 licences for price of 3” offer is violation of authorts rights on envato, no one can sell your item behind such multiple licences strategy in order to increase their own sales without your permission or another agreement between the both parties (author and seller) that matches their benefits. I cant rememner someone of envato asked me if they can sell my files under such conditions…do you? well, i was thinking the same.

To translate what we are doing here…it is nothing less or more than, authors benefit from envato traffic and envato benefit of authors skills. Basically we produce and submit items, envato process the sales and payments…none of the authors is envato’s employee so, management cant feel so bold about doing anything they want with the art submited on here. In other words…this is an “scracth my back and i’ll scratch yours” business model…but if envato prefere only to “get scratched” without to scratch the author’s back, this would be an wrong step.

Now, i still feel this licences matter is just very bad idea for a site that is user content driven. Licences schould stay with an single purchaise licence and all other fancy licence methods schould be ignored for the facts explained above and in my previous message. Envato schould have in-house attorney to research such issues before the management makes such bold steps sugessted by the community…note that many designers dont even know their rights and have no industry education. I am not saying that an non educated designer is bad designer, all i say is, there is a big gap in issues with such address…thats what all i have and can say.

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