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Dream-Theme saidI totally feel you, really… and I 200 % agree with you.
Bullshit. Take a look at some new PSDs (which WAS “hardest to get into”). At this point I see that reviewing standards gone extremely low. I miss those glorious days when grass was greener, trees were taller and Kailoon and other guys from reviewing team were pushing authors to do their BEST . I’m personally very grateful for that. Nowadays many new authors are making clean-minimal-responsive-as-other-500-themes. That’s quite disappointing![]()
Recently, we lower the standards for PSD category and (slightly) on other categories. But, we do have a few valid reasons behind this.
@designsatnight Well, new authors work hard as well… We can’t judge on that. Successful people LOVE challenge. The review process is consistent because we do have guidelines to follow, for sure there will be minor differences when come to design standards because, we are human … however, we do try our best to keep everyone on the same page.
The most important thing IMO is that 1) the best authors should be able to make a good living out of selling themes exculsively on Themeforest and 2) really good authors should be able to make a decent living out of selling themes exculsively on Themeforest.
If the best authors can’t make enough money on the markeplace because there’s too much noise (too many similar themes to choose from etc), then they will move on to other alternatives and the quality on Themeforest will drop.
You can argue that the best authors should be able to compete with an increasing amount of competitors, which may be true, but eventually you will reach a point where there are a million themes that looks about the same and that will hurt the marketplace overall.
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KarmaThemes saidBullshit. Take a look at some new PSDs (which WAS “hardest to get into”). At this point I see that reviewing standards gone extremely low. I miss those glorious days when grass was greener, trees were taller and Kailoon and other guys from reviewing team were pushing authors to do their BEST . I’m personally very grateful for that. Nowadays many new authors are making clean-minimal-responsive-as-other-500-themes. That’s quite disappointing
The more people see what you can achieve here, the more will give their best to get their designs online. The bar is rising, and will continue to do so. I think the reviewers do a great job in deciding what deserves to be sold here – and that’s more and more in terms of quantity AND quality. All new items are great. So where to say NAY ?![]()
The so called “clean-minimal-responsive-as-other-500-themes” is what sells best nowadays, so it’s more than obvious why so many authors create such themes. Keep in mind that many authors make a living out of this thing and are not here just for the sake of art. So it’s normal to try to create over and over again what keeps selling best. If the demand for minimal responsive business themes wouldn’t be so high, I’m sure we wouldn’t have so many themes like this around. It’s a trend that ultimately will fade away and once the demand will start dropping, the offer will start dropping too.
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starshade said+1
The so called “clean-minimal-responsive-as-other-500-themes” is what sells best nowadays, so it’s more than obvious why so many authors create such themes. Keep in mind that many authors make a living out of this thing and are not here just for the sake of art. So it’s normal to try to create over and over again what keeps selling best. If the demand for minimal responsive business themes wouldn’t be so high, I’m sure we wouldn’t have so many themes like this around. It’s a trend that ultimately will fade away and once the demand will start dropping, the offer will start dropping too.
starshade said
The so called “clean-minimal-responsive-as-other-500-themes” is what sells best nowadays, so it’s more than obvious why so many authors create such themes. Keep in mind that many authors make a living out of this thing and are not here just for the sake of art. So it’s normal to try to create over and over again what keeps selling best. If the demand for minimal responsive business themes wouldn’t be so high, I’m sure we wouldn’t have so many themes like this around. It’s a trend that ultimately will fade away and once the demand will start dropping, the offer will start dropping too.
have nothing against this trend. Corporate themes with minimalist design and responsive layout sales well. And that’s fine. But I have 1 remark: best selling items are providing something new in terms of design / layout / functionality (customizability, layout building, etc)... or marketing efforts. Clones does not provide anything new neither they have good sales. But they are creating noise. And the worse thing they are telling to other authors “why making something unique, new, beautiful? are you nuts? do like others – make money, man!”
kailoon said
I totally feel you, really… and I 200 % agree with you.Recently, we lower the standards for PSD category and (slightly) on other categories. But, we do have a few valid reasons behind this.
This explains why Joomla category is flooded with same design by some top authors. Nothing new with the more and more new templates.
As a buyer, for me, yes, it is getting to be a bit much.
But fear not, I’m getting used to going back a few pages now, just takes more time to decide as a buyer now.
Also no one mentioned the potential rise of “vanishing themes” due to more acceptance and less established authors who spit out a theme and leave or come back as someone else. Poof, one day the theme is pulled and gone because it was very flawed and should never have been accepted to begin with.
Dream-Theme said
starshade saidhave nothing against this trend. Corporate themes with minimalist design and responsive layout sales well. And that’s fine. But I have 1 remark: best selling items are providing something new in terms of design / layout / functionality (customizability, layout building, etc)... or marketing efforts. Clones does not provide anything new neither they have good sales. But they are creating noise. And the worse thing they are telling to other authors “why making something unique, new, beautiful? are you nuts? do like others – make money, man!”
The so called “clean-minimal-responsive-as-other-500-themes” is what sells best nowadays, so it’s more than obvious why so many authors create such themes. Keep in mind that many authors make a living out of this thing and are not here just for the sake of art. So it’s normal to try to create over and over again what keeps selling best. If the demand for minimal responsive business themes wouldn’t be so high, I’m sure we wouldn’t have so many themes like this around. It’s a trend that ultimately will fade away and once the demand will start dropping, the offer will start dropping too.
100% agree. The problem is that ThemeForest is not a museum of Fine Arts but the market. I do dislike clones and repeating trendy layouts but these schemes are brought here to be sold (not to be exposed). It is known that people in fact is the herd (nothing offensive, it is human nature) they would buy same thing that their neighbours already bought, they would travel there where their friends already travelled and they dress what other ones are already wearing. This is the essence of matter. Therefore same layout will be brought here again and again and will be bought again and again. Good it or bad… well… you know–if populus requires panem et circenses and a regent is unable to supply it with, revolution may happen…
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kailoon said
Recently, we lower the standards for PSD category and (slightly) on other categories. But, we do have a few valid reasons behind this.
Could you share any of this reasons? It seems that this new psd files have rather poor sales (generally this category is not so popular). Do you know maybe if it was ever considered to move PSD category to Graphicriver?
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purethemes said
kailoon saidCould you share any of this reasons? It seems that this new psd files have rather poor sales (generally this category is not so popular). Do you know maybe if it was ever considered to move PSD category to Graphicriver?
Recently, we lower the standards for PSD category and (slightly) on other categories. But, we do have a few valid reasons behind this.
+1 for the graphic river move – doesn’t make sense for them to be on here anymore anyways….
And I doubt anyone established will be able to make any remarks to the state of the marketplace acceptance rates and quality without being bashed as wanting a monopoly – that’s not the reason, as I stated in the thread from a week or so ago, the fact is that average earnings will drop due to sheer numbers and that will cause the more professional author (new or old) to go elsewhere as it simply becomes unprofitable to create and sell here – heaven knows we have been screaming for price increases for ever and still nothing….
It’s cool, as the tide over the past few months has changed and I see DAILY other authors trying alternative routes for sales and different marketplaces… such a shame, but as these marketplaces have grown the infrastructure and marketing doesn’t seem to of reflected this, especially in organization and increases in processes seems to of gotten worse.
Jonathan
