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Neon_Music says

Sorry guys, I’m a little bit confused. According to some of you, you can make just as many sales on other sites where the price and pay-out percentage are higher, so why bother selling on AJ at all? Is it because AJ still provides a decent number of sales and money, even at a lower price?
+1, Absolutely agree with you, if you want more money to sell your tracks on other websites. Audiojungle ago and is the most popular site for music because its low prices attract more customers. On other sites you will not earn as much as here :)
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TimMcMorris says

Let’s face it, guys: Envato doesn’t really care about audiojungle authors, as they have themeforest and activeden, and to achieve something we should unite and demand something. Such topics, which are appearing from time to time here, cannot change anything.

I do not believe that Envato “doesn’t care”, however I do believe they are in a season of some new challenges that they didn’t anticipate – especially now because of such rapid growth.

They have made many “right” choices to get where they are today, they are not dull – and they actually do monitor the forums, however I agree in that author / company relations are becoming strained and I think they need to address that… and perhaps make that more of a priority then it is currently.

While they certainly do not owe each of us a personal explanation every time we have a question or complain in the forums, open dialog across the marketplaces has noticeably taken a wrong turn somewhere, and if you were to as me at which point it was, I would say back when they removed the dedicated marketplace manager positions.

When you have a dedicated champion and cheerleader of a project or site (ie. the position that Scott Wills used to hold) – authors have a stronger voice, and the company has a stronger connection to it’s authors because there is direct communication. Even if the answer on topics are “No” or “not now” – at least there is direct connection and it’s comforting to know that your ideas are at least going somewhere or being considered.

In addition to that, each Marketplace Manager was passionate and about his or her own marketplace. They were our representatives, like our senators, and each one had a personal tie or experience in the marketplace. On top of that, in our case, our Marketplace Manager was also an author. How better to understand the author’s point of view then to be one yourself?

It was a tricky position no doubt: Constantly trying to give the authors a sense of security and reassurance that their ideas and concerns were being given a voice, monitoring the progress of new launches and programs, providing open dialog between both parties and so on.

This is not a smack in the face to the PEOPLE who are not managing all marketplaces currently – they are fulfilling their new roles, but it is the SYSTEM that they are bound by is failing if you ask me. I appreciate the community ambassador roles as well, but the simple truth is that they do not have enough authority. They are yes men/women – they can take a question and get an answer, but they actual decisions and calls are not left to them. When people don’t have the proper level of authority, they are taken less seriously and seen more or less as ineffective. The relationship that once existed was like a 4 lane highway going in both directions, but now feels like a one lane dirt road with construction delays and detours.

The main problem AJ and Envato is facing now I believe is not that changes aren’t happening fast enough, but is that authors across the board are really feeling neglected, in that their valuable input and ideas are simply being ignored – and wasted. While there has been a MAJOR delay in many promises, the solution is not to ignore the issue. “Let’s just not talk about it, and hopefully it will go away” is not going to work for much longer.

I obviously have limited insight – I don’t work for Envato, but I personally feel that there as simply two few people doing too many jobs and that the burden of heavy tasks is falling on too few shoulders.

And to bring things back on topic a little bit, if the price point and licensing structure is not updated in 2013, authors will be leaving AudioJungle. The world is catching on, and VERY large companies are coming here for music in very big productions. Price point is becoming a major issue. It’s not just about buyers, but authors too. The extended license price makes me cringe with every sale. Why? If some of you saw how your music was being used for $70, it would make you sick to your stomach.

I have had SOCAN on the phone all week talking with me about a few songs in a Major Motion Picture that was licensed from AudioJungle. The cue sheet was filled out, however because I cannot register an AJ track with a PRO – royalties cannot be recouped. Paradox. Will I need to remove every song from AJ in a few years?

So then – is $14 fair compensation for use in a major motion picture? I will let you decided if the licensing structure needs an upgrade. Yes, we all understood the deal when we signed up, and don’t get me wrong I love AJ. When I signed up however I did so with that expectation that the site would grow to accommodate success of this nature. If AJ wants to become the dollar store of music – that is fine and there is a market for that, but the quality of content will soon suffer and you will get dollar store music to go with it, if price points and licensing structures are not adjusted to accommodate what is taking place.

Do you want to know why AJ is becoming so successful? It’s not just because of low prices. It’s because of low prices and exceptionally great content. There aren’t any libraries out there that have the type of music AJ does with the same price point. To put it plainly – many authors are writing thousand dollar tracks for $14 – but if things continue to stay exactly the same, authors will begin writing $14 tracks for $14 instead…. or the ones who do take more time and effort will move along to something else.

Dear AudioJungle, I love you – but please, don’t let a camp fire of a problem turn into a forest fire because no one was paying attention!

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Art-of-Sound says

I’ve said it before, I’ll say it again: Audio jungle prices are ridiculous and considered unethical and “dirty cheap” in the world of music licensing. One sale on another website can bring me more than I make on AJ in a month, because certain licenses there cost $ 3750. Now that’s fair!

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miksmusic says

I think extended license price should be much much higher, ESPECIALLY FOR PACKS !. $100 for commercial use of 4 or 5 tracks is not even funny.

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MonophobiaStudio says

I have had SOCAN on the phone all week talking with me about a few songs in a Major Motion Picture that was licensed from AudioJungle. The cue sheet was filled out, however because I cannot register an AJ track with a PRO – royalties cannot be recouped. Paradox. Will I need to remove every song from AJ in a few years?

I agree with much of what Tim said, however I am confused about something. If we are selling Royalty Free music, how could we register one of our AJ tracks with a Performance Rights Organization whose purpose is to collect royalties on behalf of the authors? Don’t we, as the authors, give up the rights to collect royalties when we sell our music as “Royalty Free”?

Now, I am truly confused about this, I appreciate any explanations.

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MeGustaMusic says

Do you want to know why AJ is becoming so successful? It’s not just because of low prices. It’s because of low prices and exceptionally great content. There aren’t any libraries out there that have the type of music AJ does with the same price point. To put it plainly – many authors are writing thousand dollar tracks for $14 – but if things continue to stay exactly the same, authors will begin writing $14 tracks for $14 instead…. or the ones who do take more time and effort will move along to something else. Dear AudioJungle, I love you – but please, don’t let a camp fire of a problem turn into a forest fire because no one was paying attention!

True Story. Also


Customers buying at AJ are taking excellent quality music for a very low price. It really works for a lot of us and Envato is a great site. But perhaps it would be a good idea to update the prices and make AJ community more valuable. To listen to the Authors and answer our doubts in a friendly and warm way, as the community always worked

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MCDenny says

I’ve said it before, I’ll say it again: Audio jungle prices are ridiculous and considered unethical and “dirty cheap” in the world of music licensing. One sale on another website can bring me more than I make on AJ in a month, because certain licenses there cost $ 3750. Now that’s fair!

I totally agree with you, but I also noticed that the audiojungle very rarely sold extended license, which means that people are going to impose on the purchase of a regular license of $ 14. In fact a very complicated issue, audipjungle can easily lose customers if the price suddenly increases, and on the other hand, most authors agree that an increase in the selling price should be drilled as quickly as possible

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FlossieWood Moderator says

I haven’t belonged to Audiojungle for long but I do keep an eye on the forums and I have noticed that this problem has become much worse. It is a shame that authors are being ignored, and I notice that little interest is taken by Envato in authors’ opinions. I think an explanation is needed here.

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They have made many “right” choices to get where they are today, they are not dull – and they actually do monitor the forums, however I agree in that author / company relations are becoming strained and I think they need to address that… and perhaps make that more of a priority then it is currently.

....While they certainly do not owe each of us a personal explanation every time we have a question or complain in the forums, open dialog across the marketplaces has noticeably taken a wrong turn somewhere….

The main problem AJ and Envato is facing now I believe is not that changes aren’t happening fast enough, but is that authors across the board are really feeling neglected, in that their valuable input and ideas are simply being ignored – and wasted. While there has been a MAJOR delay in many promises, the solution is not to ignore the issue. “Let’s just not talk about it, and hopefully it will go away” is not going to work for much longer.

Tim makes many valid points, but this is the most important one. The pricing and licensing and search engine and rating system, etc. etc… all need to be dealt with at some point in the near future. But actually, by far the biggest issue is that no-one really knows what is going on. As Tim points out, there used to be a pretty strong relationship between Envato and its Audiojungle authors, now its a major event whenever any staff member at all says ANYTHING in the forums. This despite the fact that on a post about a year ago, it was pledged that Envato would do more to be transparent with authors about what was going on behind the scenes.

To those who comment about what ‘fair pricing’ is and whether it’s ‘ethical’ or not. Music is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it. I can get paid $14 for a track on here, but there are a number of tracks in my portfolio which I could easily pitch to a library music company or have placed in a trailer and get $2,000 for a one time usage. Or get them placed on TV and reap the royalty rewards (especially high if you’re on US network TV). It’s a delicate balancing act, and it’s why many authors use AJ to supplement their other income streams. I have no idea how Tim operates his business, but I can assure you that while Tim makes excellent money on Audiojungle, it’s certainly not his only revenue stream. I am the same.

Ultimately, I don’t think authors have much room to complain about the price of the music, because it’s the author’s choice to sell it here. No-one is forcing the author to upload anything here, and authors are welcome to try other marketplaces.

...Which brings me to simply +1 on Tim’s other extremely valid point. If AJ doesn’t update the licensing system soon – and to do this they REALLY need to talk to authors AND buyers to get it right then yes, many authors, especially established ones, will 1) become non-exclusive, or 2) start moving their music elsewhere. It’s just the reality. The licensing system here is pretty bad and just shows a general lack of understanding about how music is used in the real world. Envato is losing a LOT of potential revenue. I think it’s less about the actual pricing of various tracks, and more about the abysmal lack of licensing options.

If Envato actually sat down with many of the authors who have long-established professional careers, and there are MANY on the site, not just the ones with lots of sales, they might find a lot of incredibly valuable information and experience. But, especially recently, there has just been absolutely no dialog whatsoever. Authors loyalty to Envato will only last so long.

What a shame.

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FxProSound says

What about making a special collections with picked by staff best tracks for reasonable price, wide licensing area and PRO option. Of course with an agreement of picked track’s authors.

IMHO the problem is not in the price, but in the license. AJ did not expected buyers from movie world or broadcasting possibilities. It looks like this place was invented for small games producers, template makers, generally for inner Envato market. Big fishes are not treating AJ seriously, they think that it’s like a chinese fake factory market and they afraid to risk. There should be more types of extended licenses (broadcasting, multiple use, template reselling) to attract them.

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