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frozensatellite says

From now on I’ll be cutting off the silent part at the start of the mp3 preview and the mp3 track, especially if it’s a logo track that has detailed impacts and hits and logo reveal sounds in it. I guess it’s worth taking the extra 1min to do this.

Just out of curiosity, but how you want to do this? I may totally live behind the moon regarding this since I never used to edit an mp3 and I am seriously curious about it, but which software lets you edit an mp3 file? As far as I know every (at least professional software) lets you of course import mp3s but it would be always converted to wav or aif files?!

Even if it lets you edit the mp3 file, wouldn’t the temp file be a wav/aif and convert it back, result in actually adding the silence again? :)

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alkis says


From now on I’ll be cutting off the silent part at the start of the mp3 preview and the mp3 track, especially if it’s a logo track that has detailed impacts and hits and logo reveal sounds in it. I guess it’s worth taking the extra 1min to do this.

Just out of curiosity, but how you want to do this? I may totally live behind the moon regarding this since I never used to edit an mp3 and I am seriously curious about it, but which software lets you edit an mp3 file? As far as I know every (at least professional software) lets you of course import mp3s but it would be always converted to wav or aif files?!

Even if it lets you edit the mp3 file, wouldn’t the temp file be a wav/aif and convert it back, result in actually adding the silence again? :)

Hehe, you are right. I’m speechless at the lack of thinking I’ve shown today. Not my day.

Yes, not sure if there’s a software that does this without adding a bit of silence – I would have used Ableton so I would have realized this at the process, but just wrote it down on theory now so I didn’t think it through clearly.

I know that Audacity has an mp3 encoder that you can install to export straight to mp3, but I haven’t tried it yet and I guess it’ll be adding the silence as well due to the compression.

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frozensatellite says

No worries, happens to me all the day! :D But that’s the main problem. Every software I know would always extract the file to wav/aif and then reencode it when exporting. Cubase also got direct mp3 encoding but it doesn’t matter, because it is always a wav going to mp3.

In the end I may sound a “bit rude or from above” but totally don’t mean it but if someone wants to work with preview mp3s s/he should be aware that it is just a lo quality, far from perfect and not in sync file but also a privilege to test out stuff. Yes, the solution would be for audio guys to “errorize” the wav, but then again people would complain about why the wav files don’t sync at bpm or why they are alwas off (which would end up in a new thread or demand of service)

Again, I am aware that Creattive just wants to find a solution, but generally saying: One can not really demand from audio guys to generally render preview mp3, sync wav, wav sync to preview mp3 … again, if someone would specifically ask me after purchase that he needs this. I would do that within the second the mail drops in … but think about actually the video guy doing just ONE simple step of work more (which takes 1-10 seconds) by automatically or manually removing the gap compared to the audio guy who would have to import the mp3, match the wav and get it in sync by doing null/phasing tests etc. and then reexport it and upload one more file which adds 1/3 to the existing package of files.

So again, on request I would do this, but I wouldn’t generally errorize my wavs. If one wants to work with preview and already goes along that far without removing the silence on import, I would kindly ask the video guy to think about that the next time and do this little extra step since it just takes 1-10 seconds more work, comparing it to approx. 5-10 mins of our time … and in the end we are not talking about 300-1000 EUR license tracks here ;) Meaning, it is maybe 3 bucks for a logo sound. Buy 2-5 tracks which may be your favorites for this project and work with purely perfect files :) Does it really matter if you make hundreds of bucks on a logo you sell and you spent 3 or 15 bucks on sounds?

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Creattive says

Just expand the track in AE to see it’s waveform, zoom in all the way and move it a frame or two (as much as you need) and problem solved :)

Move it 1-2 frames and problem solved?

The problem here is usability. Buyers of videohive templates are often unexperienced in the editing programm, just drag and drop the music into the timeline and it’s synced automatically is the way almost all videohivers go.

It’s not always one frame, depending on the projects fps and the software used for mp3 encoding (I guess). So now our buyers need to figure out how many frames the sound needs to be shifted, and this is not practicable.


Again, I am aware that Creattive just wants to find a solution, but generally saying: One can not really demand from audio guys to generally render preview mp3, sync wav, wav sync to preview mp3 … again, if someone would specifically ask me after purchase that he needs this. I would do that within the second the mail drops in … but think about actually the video guy doing just ONE simple step of work more (which takes 1-10 seconds) by automatically or manually removing the gap compared to the audio guy who would have to import the mp3, match the wav and get it in sync by doing null/phasing tests etc. and then reexport it and upload one more file which adds 1/3 to the existing package of files.

I agree with you that adding silence to the wav is not a practicable solution, at least for all audiojungle files.

But you are wrong with your assumptions. After Effects (the program we use for templates) doesn’t have the remove silence-function.

Also, it’s not that easy that we can just make our animation after we placed the preview so that it starts after the silence. This would work if there are only wav’s allowed in audiojungle, but you might buy something that’s mp3-only or both mp3 and wav, and they have that gap we removed, again.

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muscma01 says

This is very interesting to me because I had NO idea about this problem. Thanks for bringing it up Creattive. As an Audio Jungle author my mind starts thinking about how to fix this. I mean the reason people would buy a template, and the music is simplicity and convenience. If all they want to do is open up after effects, and throw the music track in the timeline and it’s off now it’s not as simple and convenient.

On the other hand right now it’s pretty simple and convenient for designers to download the watermarked preview file and use it in a project. I don’t know if this would be as simple and convenient for Video Hive authors but would you be able to use a watermarked wav file just as easily? I know if a Video Hive author contacted me and asked for it I’d be more then happy to supply one. Especially if it is for that type of fast paced, hard hits, ect type of animation. Since the problem is compression, that is a possible solution.

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Creattive says

@muscma01

yes that’s a possible solution, but it requires contacting the author, waiting for reply etc.

Now I’m striving through audiojungle and download every preview I like, no matter if I may use it or not. Whenever I have some time I look through my already downloaded AJ-Previews and see if I can make something for them.

The biggest problem I see here is that we are not aware if the final file is a wav (most probably without silence-gap) or a mp3 (most probably the same gap as the preview). The easiest solution would be to only accept wav-files and no mp3s, and then remove the silence gap of the preview before making the animation.

BTW: Actually it’s better to use wav than mp3 in after effects, since AE doesn’t handle mp3 so good.

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muscma01 says

@Creattive

Ya contacting the author and waiting for the reply is the biggest issue that would come up for Video Hive Authors. I know there are a lot of Audio Jungle authors that are very much on top of emails, and getting back with requests in a timely manner. On the other hand there are others that don’t, and just downloading the preview file is much easier. I guess it really depends on the situation and the animation. If it is a project that the edits, transitions, text lands, ect have to be timed and synched to the music, sound, or whatever a .wav preview might just be the ticket.

I guess from an Audio Jungle author perspective, I always include mp3 and wav as the end products, and I normally just assume buyers will use the wav over the mp3 because it is less compressed, but I have no real data to back up that assumption. It would just be what I would do if I had the choice between the two.

I also assume that Video Hive authors use music from Audio Jungle authors they are familiar with. I am curious if that assumption is true, or if the music is picked from search results, homepage items, most sales, date of upload, ect. Personally I think interacting with authors across the marketplaces is good for everyone. I know it might be a pain to wait for an authors reply, but it might get to a point where Video Hive authors establish strong relationships with Audio Jungle authors they trust will get back to them fast.

I guess to me it seems like the most economical and quickest solution to the problem.

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bosone says

I feel you are complicating simple things. I have more than 80 items on AJ, I don’t think i will now check every one of them to verify that mp3 and wav are in sync.

BUT if a VH author will use my preview music in a video, he should at least tell me that he is using my watermarked mp3. At that point, I will immediately download the mp3, the wav file and will check if they are perfectly in sync. if not, I will make a new WAV using the mp3 as reference and submit the new ZIP with the Wav. the mp3 will not be changed. the wav will be (if it has problems). If someone will purchase the video and my music, he will be sure that the wav he will purchase will be exactly in sync with the mp3 preview in VH item. I already did that with one of my items, it was pretty straightforward!

I don’t think it is so difficult for a AJ author to make this corrections, if required.

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Creattive says

I feel you are complicating simple things. I have more than 80 items on AJ, I don’t think i will now check every one of them to verify that mp3 and wav are in sync.

I never said that it is my wish that any AJ authors change their wavs. I’ve posted some solutions I and AJ authors in the first thread have thought of and THEN why these solutions are not good.

As already mentioned, that destroys the loops, the bpm-grids etc. It’s not practicable. What might be good for one user, is bad for another who wants to edit the wav based on the bpm grid.

I’m trying to find a solution here that is not complicating things. And complicating is in this case imo contacting the AJ author to change their file as soon as it is used in one VH-project. THAT is complicating things. Much more easier is if you post on your profile page that all your sounds come in wav. Then Videohivers know that they can erase the gap in the preview before working on the animation.

Edit/ I have just written a huge post about the problem that we don’t know if the file is wav or mp3, then I’ve recognized that it is actually posted on the item’s page.

This does make this issue obsolete, I admit xD

So from now on I will delete the gap before making my animations IF the file is a wav. If it’s mp3 I leave it as it is. If both mp3 and wav are provided I write in my documentation to use the wav.

Easy as that.

But still this should be known across the marketplace.

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bosone says

But still this should be known across the marketplace.

indeed, it was a VERY useful information for me… since my music was used in very few VH items and discovered that i actually had that problem! :)

from now I will provide both the mp3 and wav file in ZIP of new items, and in any case I will make sure that the wav and the mp3 are exaclty in sync! ... and of course I will ensure that if one my files is used in a VH podutcion, that wav will be OK! :)

so thank you vert much, it was really a useful discussion!

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