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animike says

I went to sleep and woke up realizing that my thoughts aren’t needed about these types of things. I quit. :P

Ha. I know what you mean Shucks. Lance usually locks most threads shortly after I comment on them. Oh well.

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CodeByASH says

P&K and every author who author’s AS2 files are not being punished for developing AS2 files. In fact P&K has been featured before and it’s been my experience that you get the spot light once and then they give it to a million others. Sure I would love it if my file made file of the week or if I was featured author, but the truth is you can’t rely on activeden to promote your files. I don’t know how those are picked. Sometimes i think they should just give it to the top handful of authors. But the sad truth is if you want more exposure you need to upload something new (AS2 or AS3 ) whatever. If you quit uploading slowly your sales sink as files become buried in the long list of files and as market saturation happens with your files. Look at all the original flashden authors who quit uploading. Once you stop some one else will step up to take your place. As for the AS2 and AS3 debate AS3 is better. End of discussion. If you’re only comfortable with AS2 then create in AS2 and upload. Your file will get the same treatment as the rest of us. I’d say less than 1% of the files get featured so chances are whether it was AS2 or AS3 you’re not going to be featured so don’t cry over opportunities lost. And if you feel yourself holding off learning AS3 because it’s too difficult then you better think about another career away from interactive design and development.

I’m not getting on the AS2 /AS3 what’s better argument and believe me that I agree we must all move to AS3 very soon, in fact I started last year changing my current files to AS3 version, and will do the same will the rest.

But I don’t agree with a double standard, and depicting some file as less worthy, and you can’t deny actions like discrimination some types of “ACCEPTED” files of some promotion features does no help.

There’s still a market for AS2 files and some buyers really don’t care about AS2 /AS3.

Should authors care? A definitely yes… Should authors write in AS3 ? A definitely yes… Should ActiveDen have a double standard for AS2 Flash Files? A definitely NO…

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marcfolio says


P&K and every author who author’s AS2 files are not being punished for developing AS2 files. In fact P&K has been featured before and it’s been my experience that you get the spot light once and then they give it to a million others. Sure I would love it if my file made file of the week or if I was featured author, but the truth is you can’t rely on activeden to promote your files. I don’t know how those are picked. Sometimes i think they should just give it to the top handful of authors. But the sad truth is if you want more exposure you need to upload something new (AS2 or AS3 ) whatever. If you quit uploading slowly your sales sink as files become buried in the long list of files and as market saturation happens with your files. Look at all the original flashden authors who quit uploading. Once you stop some one else will step up to take your place. As for the AS2 and AS3 debate AS3 is better. End of discussion. If you’re only comfortable with AS2 then create in AS2 and upload. Your file will get the same treatment as the rest of us. I’d say less than 1% of the files get featured so chances are whether it was AS2 or AS3 you’re not going to be featured so don’t cry over opportunities lost. And if you feel yourself holding off learning AS3 because it’s too difficult then you better think about another career away from interactive design and development.

I’m not getting on the AS2 /AS3 what’s better argument and believe me that I agree we must all move to AS3 very soon, in fact I started last year changing my current files to AS3 version, and will do the same will the rest.

But I don’t agree with a double standard, and depicting some file as less worthy, and you can’t deny actions like discrimination some types of “ACCEPTED” files of some promotion features does no help.

There’s still a market for AS2 files and some buyers really don’t care about AS2 /AS3.

Should authors care? A definitely yes… Should authors write in AS3 ? A definitely yes… Should ActiveDen have a double standard for AS2 Flash Files? A definitely NO…

I don’t think AD has a double standard here. You admit yourself that the way forward is AS3 , and maybe clients or customers don’t know the difference but as promoters of all things flash we as authors (and activeden in general) should be promoting the best flash files, and from a coding side AS2 files just aren’t it. AS3 has been around now since 2006, and I bet that if every flash developer would have embraced AS3 in the first year or 2 that it came out the haters against flash today wouldn’t have as much ground to stand on as they do now. AS2 is processor hungry, a memory hog, and there’s not much excuse why any author here should be coding in it. I think AD promotes AS3 files only because they’re trying to encourage authors to code better, and it wouldn’t surprise me if AD stopped accepting AS2 files all together by the end of this year.

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ParkerAndKent says

It’s incredible how in a stock market nobody talks about the design. There are competitors sites that have based their fortune on an appealing design (and if you look at their sources you would like to kill yourself).

People buys what looks good, nobody can look at the code on the preview pages.

And let’s say that code and design are 50% & 50% important. Well, if the designers must learn as3, then the coders here MUST learn to design…

If you code “bad” (and let’s demonstrate this) you can’t be featured.

If you design bad… nobody cares.

Sad marketplace. On TF people get rejected also 10 times… some are never allowed to publish anything.

They don’t push you to make html5 or php6, they only care about overall quality… they reject you also if the file you upload doesn’t look good.

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animike says

It’s incredible how in a stock market nobody talks about the design. There are competitors sites that have based their fortune on an appealing design (and if you look at their sources you would like to kill yourself).

I talked about it, but I am probably too long winded for most people. The only thing some people respond to is…

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majd_abdul says

If you code “bad” (and let’s demonstrate this) you can’t be featured. If you design bad… nobody cares.

If you design bad your file wouldn’t be accepted to the marketplace in the first place… at least that’s what was supposed to be the main purpose of the last raise in file quality requirements; and since this is the thread’s topic we should focus on it and ask for another stricter raise in quality standards.

It’s not as hard as it sounds:

1. Implement the Theme Forest standards to all files from the Site Templates, Image Viewers, and Video/Music Players categories.

2. Implement the Graphic River standards to all files from the Menus, Animations, Preloaders, and Games.

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flashedge says

Flash is such a versatile tool that you cannot focus only on code and design, there is much more: innovation, performance, presentation, usability, features. Even if you excel in everything the risks of publishing a commercial failure are still high because the buyer does not find your work useful or too complicated.

An ugly flash file might be considered still interesting for its function as long it permits to be customized easily with graphics skins and other things. You can’t compare this marketplace to anything, it’s unique.

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pezflash says

An ugly flash file might be considered still interesting for its function as long it permits to be customized easily with graphics skins and other things. You can’t compare this marketplace to anything, it’s unique.

This same concept could be applied to TF templates. But there the visual requirements for the default file seems to be higher. I’m not disagreeing with your though, just pointing out AD is not the one mrkt. with this fact.

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Webmarbles says

It’s incredible how in a stock market nobody talks about the design. There are competitors sites that have based their fortune on an appealing design (and if you look at their sources you would like to kill yourself).

People buys what looks good, nobody can look at the code on the preview pages.

And let’s say that code and design are 50% & 50% important. Well, if the designers must learn as3, then the coders here MUST learn to design…

If you code “bad” (and let’s demonstrate this) you can’t be featured.

If you design bad… nobody cares.

Sad marketplace. On TF people get rejected also 10 times… some are never allowed to publish anything.

They don’t push you to make html5 or php6, they only care about overall quality… they reject you also if the file you upload doesn’t look good.

Hear hear :-)

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RimmonTrieu says

I think this thread is going nowhere and the fact that no one is actually listening, ie. keep comparing AD vs TF but never think through fully enough what AD is all about and then misleading everything with completely unrelated topic AS2 vs AS3 . Making false argument that AD favors AS3 regardless how bad the design is and AS3 is source of all problem: sell decline, customer complains, etc etc

For AS2 lover, the only place you don’t get promoted is birthday bundle which happens once a year and monthly featured item which a lot of AS3 author still have to fight for its place. Please get over yourself and move on.

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