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Blinn
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Long-story short, can you record raw sound from a computer source, such as as youtube video, modify it, then sell it? Would it be treated the same way as foley?

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FxProSound
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Obviously not, but with heavy sound processing you can for instance made lot of whooshes from soundtrack of Bold and Beautiful soap opera. Probably no one knows it, even famous Ridge :)

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So, what’s the difference between foley and just basically copying another sound? Both are done through recordings.

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FxProSound
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Making foley it’s recording sound for faking original audio for video. For example when making films some sounds are not recorded because they are unable to record properly while recording video scenes. Audio foley guy must recreate it and mix into soundtrack. Foley is also kind of art, something creative.

Copying sound from recorded clips by someone it’s a kind of copyright violation. Probably you don’t want too hear your modified SFX in Hollywood film with someone’s else credits. It’s the matter of honesty, cause it’s hard to recognize source of foley.

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Art-of-Sound
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can you record raw sound from a computer source, such as as youtube video, modify it, then sell it? Would it be treated the same way as foley?

Recording of an existing recording is not foley.
If a computer source, such as as youtube video is copyrighted and can be identified in your work, you can get yourself in trouble. Even if you distort it beyond recognition, some sound recordings nowadays contain inaudible digital fingerprints embedded into the waveform. You don’t hear it, so you don’t know it’s there, but running a software check reveals who it really belongs to.

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can you record raw sound from a computer source, such as as youtube video, modify it, then sell it? Would it be treated the same way as foley?
Recording of an existing recording is not foley.
If a computer source, such as as youtube video is copyrighted and can be identified in your work, you can get yourself in trouble. Even if you distort it beyond recognition, some sound recordings nowadays contain inaudible digital fingerprints embedded into the waveform. You don’t hear it, so you don’t know it’s there, but running a software check reveals who it really belongs to.

Even if you record the sound being played, distorting it, and then exporting it as another file?

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can you record raw sound from a computer source, such as as youtube video, modify it, then sell it? Would it be treated the same way as foley?
Recording of an existing recording is not foley.
If a computer source, such as as youtube video is copyrighted and can be identified in your work, you can get yourself in trouble. Even if you distort it beyond recognition, some sound recordings nowadays contain inaudible digital fingerprints embedded into the waveform. You don’t hear it, so you don’t know it’s there, but running a software check reveals who it really belongs to.
Even if you record the sound being played, distorting it, and then exporting it as another file?

Thats still using someone elses work. If I took a jay-z song, ran it thorough some modulation plug-ins, time-stretched it out, and slapped my name on it, does that seem ok? It’s the same issue that people get into when sampling. It’s still illegal (unless copyright is no longer in effect), but is one of those things that gets by. Your best bet (and to stay safe) is record new things. Even if its the same type of sound. Be original!

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Art-of-Sound
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Even if you record the sound being played, distorting it, and then exporting it as another file?

If it’s totally beyond recognition and has an entirely different nature, I’d say go for it. As fxprosound said, if you take an opera, run it through Doppler shifter, add flangers and filters and create a series of whooshes, that would be fine. But if you sample explosions from a movie, pitch them down by a few semitones and try to sell as your own, that wouldn’t work.

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adammonroe
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IMO , taking the sound from a youtube video isn’t going to sound very good anyway – youtube has horrible audio compression and encoding. Foley is usually someone in a sound studio slapping wet towels against a wood block or crushing eggshells in order to simulate or enhance a particular sound, but they are still recording and producing new sounds. Taking sounds or effects from someone’s work is called sampling. Sampling in music is sometimes covered under fair-use. But if you are going to take a sample, and not incorporate it into a larger work, and try to sell the isolated version of it, that’s blatant copyright infringement, IMO .

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Blinn
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Thanks for the answers. :)

Now copying someone else’s work like that is something I never plan on doing at all. I just didn’t know where the line was when selling sounds recorded and mixed from computer-based sources.

@ Adammonroe – That’s where the confusion is with sound effects. I can record the sound of me clapping my hands, but what about recording something like thunder from say… a youtube video of some guy filming a storm, and then mixing it into something completely different, such as a magical spell sound or something very different from the source sound?

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