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QBKL says

author having the possibility to discount their own products should not be allowed. Is the same thing as letting authors setting their price which again is not allowed.

Doru, you took this message out of context. It was a continuation of a proposition in a previous message. In that previous post I talked more about how this thing would work, from my perspective at least, to keep a fair competition level up. Of course, the idea can be worked and improved on.

What we do agree on is the referral cut which makes much much more sense as a low%/item than high%/first time action.

It encourages users to actively promote items and the market place to generate new sales and thus it only benefits the market as a whole in the end. The current system was unfortunately built to fail as soon as the market became popular enough.

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Blinn says


I’m sure it can be done, and also I’m thinking that IF you give authors the choice to add discount coupons, assuming the earn-the-right-to methods, those discounts COULD and SHOULD be supported by authors. In the end, the the product is good enough it should generate enough sales to cover the “loss” of a discount coupon through sales volume. Maybe allowing authors to opt-in to such a discount code system, even if issued by Envato could help. Although chances are slim authors will want to randomly earn less money on sales.

Good call. Will be interesting to see how this could be best implemented.


This one time 30% referral cut should get scrapped (or reduced to 5-10%) and should be replaced with something like 5% for each item sold through a referral link.
Definitely agree with the logic there, Doru. Less referral commission, but on all purchases, not just the first purchase from a first-time customer. Referrers could make potentially greater volume of sales and would act as a way to encourage more referrals and drive more traffic to the Marketplaces. Looking forward to seeing which avenue we actually take, thanks for the suggestion, added to the list! :)

Scott, if you’re reading this, you might want to write this idea down in big fat bold letters because Envato desperately needs this right now :)

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doru says

Doru, you took this message out of context.

well ok :) sorry about that, but my opinion is: less control you give authors in controlling item price, better it is for everyone

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scottwills Envato team says

Scott, if you’re reading this, you might want to write this idea down in big fat bold letters because Envato desperately needs this right now :)

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QBKL says

Sorry for the off-topic, but, Scott, you should have used Comic Sans!

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jamesmcd says

But please, give us much better searching as well :) Tags would be good too I suppose, and searching within downloads would be very handy. At the moment I open a huge amount of tabs and do browser searches for things. Not very efficient ;)

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scottwills Envato team says

Sorry for the off-topic, but, Scott, you should have used Comic Sans!

Careful what you ask for. ;)

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scottwills Envato team says

But please, give us much better searching as well :)

You’ll be hearing from our Search team soon, they’re an awesome bunch. I spoke with Michelle, our Search Product Manager recently. She will be dropping-by in the near future to tell you more about her team and the search project which is complex but obviously a huge, huge priority for both Envato and our community.

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Blinn says

I just came up with an interesting formula. Get this:

Total Earnings from Referral Cuts / # Deposits = Deposit Average Deposit Average / 6 = 5% deposit average 5% deposit average x 20 = 100% of all the money used before the 30% referral cut.

It would take 20 sales for each referral to get exactly what the current referral system gives 30% of. It’s a good way to calculate exactly what you could earn if all your first referral cuts were earned at 100% commission.

Feel free to pick my mathematics apart, I’m not sure this is entirely correct myself. :D

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urbazon says

I agree with you that the Bargain Basement could have been worded better and pitched differently. It was purposely removed however because the time and ‘money’ it took to manage was more than actual sales from the Bargain Basement collections. I think they were more popular with authors than buyers ultimately.

Thanks for the reply. I thought the reasoning behind cancelling Bargain basement was something like this, but wasn’t completely sure. Although, there still is that bit of uncertainty that’s left in the air: could’ve it been different if Bargain Basement was more adequately promoted? Maybe many buyers didn’t even know about it.

Maybe it still should find itself on list of potential features for the future, but this time to be more automated, in order to put the pressure of reviewers/staff who were maintaining it…?

Can you think of anything else along these kind of lines to increase item exposure?

Actually, I do. I suggested this one before and it seemed like justinfrench liked the idea, but it might be good if I mention it here as well.

The thing is, with us, authors with big/huge portfolios, portfolio pages are so messy and crowded that I guess potential buyers simply give up – if any buyer is actually browsing author pages at all. What I’d like to see on portfolio pages is a tree-like menu of categories and sub-categories to serve as a filter, just like the one we have on this page: http://audiojungle.net/category/all in the right-hand column, or like the one which appears on the search results page: http://audiojungle.net/search?utf8=%E2%9C%93&term=elegant+logo (also in the right-hand column).

P.S. It’s nice to see you’re “back” on the Forums ;)

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