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OriginalEXE says

Receiving a passive income is a dream, like many noted – and is an amazing thing to achieve without doubt. There does come a time however when money no longer becomes about how “I” live, but how I can also support the lives of those around me.
Exactly, very nice to see there are more people like this, thanks for that Tim!
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FRESHFACE says

We are fine with 30% for Envato, but what we are not fine about is what we get (or rather don’t get) for it.

Number 1 is traffic, we need more consistent traffic. Even though the marketplace keeps growing, we don’t feel it. We are in a huge store with thousands of aisles where people only grab stuff from the few front aisles. This worked fine years ago, not anymore. Please innovate.

Number 2-?, the usual suspects, pipeline, dead horse

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Dream-Theme says

IMO: More money for Envato = More stable live for Authors
But yes, it will great to get 71% for example after sale for 1M

+1 to 71% after 1M :D

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BrownHouseMedia says

Receiving a passive income is a dream, like many noted – and is an amazing thing to achieve without doubt.

Tim M. is way to modest. To call what he does “passive income” is very deceptive. Everyone I know that is making a living in music works very very hard. Probably putting in more hours than if they had a “real” job.

I am not exclusive so I won’t comment on the exclusive rate – but I would sure love to see the non-exclusive rate raised or an increase in the cost of a track (there has been much discussion in another thread.)

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Dream-Theme says

We are fine with 30% for Envato, but what we are not fine about is what we get (or rather don’t get) for it.

Number 1 is traffic, we need more consistent traffic. Even though the marketplace keeps growing, we don’t feel it. We are in a huge store with thousands of aisles where people only grab stuff from the few front aisles. This worked fine years ago, not anymore. Please innovate.

Number 2-?, the usual suspects, pipeline, dead horse

Well, devs on appstore are getting 70% + doing marketing themselves. Think about it – we are still kinda fine here ;)

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FRESHFACE says


We are fine with 30% for Envato, but what we are not fine about is what we get (or rather don’t get) for it.

Number 1 is traffic, we need more consistent traffic. Even though the marketplace keeps growing, we don’t feel it. We are in a huge store with thousands of aisles where people only grab stuff from the few front aisles. This worked fine years ago, not anymore. Please innovate.

Number 2-?, the usual suspects, pipeline, dead horse
Well, devs on appstore are getting 70% + doing marketing themselves. Think about it – we are still kinda fine here ;)

I wouldn’t really compare these two, but Envato could implement a thing or two seen on App Store. It’s like apples and oranges because each company/store have different overhead etc.

a) Apple always play their games from a position where the other side can’t say no. It’s their ecosystem, no competition. Envato did not built HTML or Photoshop, these are open technologies. Envato is prone to competition, just like templatemonster was eventually.

b) Envato store has thousands of aisles, App Store millions. They are so big that some trending chart is not enough anymore. As I see it, there is still a plenty of stuff that Envato can implement to help fight this growing problem.

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VF says

Receiving a passive income is a dream, like many noted – and is an amazing thing to achieve without doubt. There does come a time however when money no longer becomes about how “I” live, but how I can also support the lives of those around me.

+1 Definitely this is a serious point not to miss and needs little deep observation. I would say for an author, the benefits of passive income (free time etc) actually comes because of selecting stock as their channel of work. This doesn’t mean the earning comes without work/skill/experience expense of time.

While it is true that – we earn while sleeping, the another fact also there – we lose sleep/freeness when a precious work doesn’t convert into money – no one can solve this except the author themselves! :D

For me, a marketplace with option to reach ~70% in reasonably fast pace + continuously improving eco system is a gift. The only problem is consistency of the later part! :P

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contempoinc says


Not that I make the same per month that I use to selling on ActiveDen… but I can say when top authors are pulling in fairly decent amounts consistently per month, and you have plenty of free time not having to work 9-5 during the week like everyone else… how much more incentive does one need besides healthy income, and more leisure time? Surely that is enough… I don’t see how bells and whistles, like rings, and custom profiles will make a difference…. and I doubt aspiring authors who want to climb to the top are doing it for the incentives.. you can’t really beat passive income and more leisure time, really the authors are buying their own incentives with their profits and I doubt they’re not missing anything additional from Envato. Also the way these marketplaces work, once you have high sales, and good exposure – you definitely have an advantage over new comers, so anything additional, like ad campaigns would be overkill and just keep a bigger divide between top sellers and new comers…
+1

+2, all the current elite incentives are a kind of a joke I could care less about rings and business cards, I’m not here to earn trinkets this is a business. I thought the ad campaigns might be great but I did t see an increase maybe partly due to the terrible ad design with no call to action. I really think the program needs to be looked at again and revised/molded into something actually beneficial to elite authors.

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Dream-Theme says



We are fine with 30% for Envato, but what we are not fine about is what we get (or rather don’t get) for it.

Number 1 is traffic, we need more consistent traffic. Even though the marketplace keeps growing, we don’t feel it. We are in a huge store with thousands of aisles where people only grab stuff from the few front aisles. This worked fine years ago, not anymore. Please innovate.

Number 2-?, the usual suspects, pipeline, dead horse
Well, devs on appstore are getting 70% + doing marketing themselves. Think about it – we are still kinda fine here ;)

I wouldn’t really compare these two, but Envato could implement a thing or two seen on App Store. It’s like apples and oranges because each company/store have different overhead etc.

a) Apple always play their games from a position where the other side can’t say no. It’s their ecosystem, no competition. Envato did not built HTML or Photoshop, these are open technologies. Envato is prone to competition, just like templatemonster was eventually.

b) Envato store has thousands of aisles, App Store millions. They are so big that some trending chart is not enough anymore. As I see it, there is still a plenty of stuff that Envato can implement to help fight this growing problem.

Agree. But IMO comparison is correct: simply try to sell your themes elsewhere :D

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Creattive says

increasing prices about 10% would be way better imo – for everyone.

I doubt that will have any influence on sales.

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