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drsankarl says

Just Keep searching in the forums and there are answers to all kind of rejection messages and also how the review process works to submission tips. this place is either for talented people or people who work hard and have great endurance. Its not a place for people wanting to make a quick buck.
And personally, with all those vague messages, I have improved my coding standards, structuring HTML, creating a clear CSS file, properly making a documentation, taking copyrighted images seriously and the list goes on. but the best thing is improving my design skills.

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rakinjakk says

I totally agree with that. With the current flow of never ending submission the reviewers are overflown with files to be checked. But I still think envato should do something about it. Maybe adding more standard messages to reject items (not only the one with “your item does not meet our quality standards”) so the author could get a sense about what is wrong with his file. You know… make that rejection more meaningful.

*Devil’s advocate incoming
If employees are overflown with work, is that something we should be worrying about? I’m inclined to think that this is a non-argument when we’re talking about a company running a healthy annual profit so that’s something they should address and not something that should be used as an excuse. Too much work? Hire more people. Improve the process.

Btw: the current review system is fine to me and I don’t mind waiting.

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livingroomClassics says

given the harshness of the review process, i would expect almost guaranteed sales for the accepted items.

i too would like more reasons for hard rejects, but understandibly it would be madness for the curators, having to describe problems for tens of items daily (aslso imagine a total newbie being rejected over and over and resubmitting over and over without end, just because he never played an instrument or music before, and has to start from scratch. i cant see where that would lead…). but a motiv or two and the possibility of one or two resubmittings for that track would be sweet.

i would be more satisfied if instead of a motiv i would be guaranteed more sales for those thoroughly reviewd accepted items…and of course a better distribution of sales between all members, not 10 top authors with 1000 sales per month and 100000 others with just 5-10 sales

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fillerspace says

If employees are overflown with work, is that something we should be worrying about? I’m inclined to think that this is a non-argument when we’re talking about a company running a healthy annual profit so that’s something they should address and not something that should be used as an excuse. Too much work? Hire more people. Improve the process.

I actually sent an email to Envato inquiring about the two jobs they currently have posted (CodeCanyon and ThemeForest reviewers), and I haven’t gotten a response yet. It appears they are too busy to even hire new reviewers.

A question to people out there who want more detailed feedback (more than the generic response from reviewers, and more private than posting in item feedback): would you pay for this if someone offered it as a service? If so, how much?

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livingroomClassics says


If employees are overflown with work, is that something we should be worrying about? I’m inclined to think that this is a non-argument when we’re talking about a company running a healthy annual profit so that’s something they should address and not something that should be used as an excuse. Too much work? Hire more people. Improve the process.

I actually sent an email to Envato inquiring about the two jobs they currently have posted (CodeCanyon and ThemeForest reviewers), and I haven’t gotten a response yet. It appears they are too busy to even hire new reviewers.

A question to people out there who want more detailed feedback (more than the generic response from reviewers, and more private than posting in item feedback): would you pay for this if someone offered it as a service? If so, how much?

service offered by the site? no way would i pay for that, lol. what for? being accepted doesnt mean you;ll have sales, and chances are you’ll need at least 2 to make up for the money paid for feedback…

if the service is provided by a third party there are such offers online, but i once encountered a guy who did that and demanded somewhat of hundreds of dollars for a song. so… with those money why not enroll in berklee music academy online or somth..

if the feedback is given by top authors on aj, i doubt it. why would they do that and jeopardize their incomes (cuz if the feedback’ed item does better, they lose sales).

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Madalincmc says

given the harshness of the review process, i would expect almost guaranteed sales for the accepted items. i would be more satisfied if instead of a motiv i would be guaranteed more sales for those thoroughly reviewd accepted items…and of course a better distribution of sales between all members, not 10 top authors with 1000 sales per month and 100000 others with just 5-10 sales
I disagree… The amount of sales you get is only your responsibility. The reviewers cant guarantee you sales… only you by creating a high quality item and getting exposure to your items. Also those 10 authors you are talking about (there are more then 10 actually..) are making great efforts to achieve those sales.
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livingroomClassics says


given the harshness of the review process, i would expect almost guaranteed sales for the accepted items. i would be more satisfied if instead of a motiv i would be guaranteed more sales for those thoroughly reviewd accepted items…and of course a better distribution of sales between all members, not 10 top authors with 1000 sales per month and 100000 others with just 5-10 sales
I disagree… The amount of sales you get is only your responsibility. The reviewers cant guarantee you sales… only you by creating a high quality item and getting exposure to your items. Also those 10 authors you are talking about (there are more then 10 actually..) are making great efforts to achieve those sales.

i have so many arguments contrary to what you said that i wownt even begin telling them…. so i stop here.

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Demorfoza says



given the harshness of the review process, i would expect almost guaranteed sales for the accepted items. i would be more satisfied if instead of a motiv i would be guaranteed more sales for those thoroughly reviewd accepted items…and of course a better distribution of sales between all members, not 10 top authors with 1000 sales per month and 100000 others with just 5-10 sales
I disagree… The amount of sales you get is only your responsibility. The reviewers cant guarantee you sales… only you by creating a high quality item and getting exposure to your items. Also those 10 authors you are talking about (there are more then 10 actually..) are making great efforts to achieve those sales.
i have so many arguments contrary to what you said that i wownt even begin telling them…. so i stop here.

Madalincmc is actually right. You can’t expect Envato taking care of your items all the time. If there were no “harshness of the review process”, there would be 10, 20 or even 50 times more items, at least. How would this place look like then?

It’s a marketplace. You’re here to sell your work, not for being lead by the hand. This place is giving you an opportunity to run your own profile/shop, but it’s you who’s responsible to show your products to the world. And for mutual good Envato reviews our works, this way they are keeping their own image at decent level and thus make you look more professional.

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livingroomClassics says




given the harshness of the review process, i would expect almost guaranteed sales for the accepted items. i would be more satisfied if instead of a motiv i would be guaranteed more sales for those thoroughly reviewd accepted items…and of course a better distribution of sales between all members, not 10 top authors with 1000 sales per month and 100000 others with just 5-10 sales
I disagree… The amount of sales you get is only your responsibility. The reviewers cant guarantee you sales… only you by creating a high quality item and getting exposure to your items. Also those 10 authors you are talking about (there are more then 10 actually..) are making great efforts to achieve those sales.
i have so many arguments contrary to what you said that i wownt even begin telling them…. so i stop here.

Madalincmc is actually right. You can’t expect Envato taking care of your items all the time. If there were no “harshness of the review process”, there would be 10, 20 or even 50 times more items, at least. How would this place look like then?

It’s a marketplace. You’re here to sell your work, not for being lead by the hand. This place is giving you an opportunity to run your own profile/shop, but it’s you who’s responsible to show your products to the world. And for mutual good Envato reviews our works, this way they are keeping their own image at decent level and thus make you look more professional.

you are brainwashed. just to give two arguments, of many more: 1) p5 doesnt review so harsh and works much better than aj 2) for the 67% aj takes from my sales, i am intitled to expect more. if it only took 35 or 50 (like most sites) than it wouldnt bother me

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themeflame says

Great thread, would read again, 10/10.

Except one thing. One reviewer or two versus hundreds of items weekly. They’ll reach the second coming of Jesus if they did that to each of the items.

Damn it, guess you didn’t think of that, did you? :)

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