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pezflash says
I think we need to stop uploading AS2 files… period.

AS3 is far superior and in a time when Flash is getting alot of stick we need to use the most optimized language so that our sites / files perform well… that means AS3 , not AS2 . Coding in a language thats 4+ years old and simply god awful shouldn’t be an option anymore.

Just my 2c.

Not agree. Not only because i code in AS2 . You’re thinking on developers, but the fact is that almost 60 or 70 percent of buyers are not flash developers, they don’t even care about the version, unless they need to mix the file with another one.

Do you think TF buyers care about themes programmed in PHP 4 or 5?
Btw, PHP4 is 10 years old.

EDIT : anyway, this should not be converted into a as2/as3 discussion. It’s definitevely not the reason or the point here.

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LanceSnider says
@Lance … before you start “culling” files as you say… will you give us a window period to update old files? So they are up to par. Also I think with the thing with AS2 files, every author should once familar with AS3 , go back to all their old files and make a separate AS3 version, that way they can maintain the sales and search listening. Not that I think AD would cull AS2 files any time soon, but making AS3 versions would be a good idea, just update the file, not submit it as a new file. That way when the time is right we can remove the AS2 files when they no longer needed and the AS3 version will remain, that would be the best bet. Although those with larger portfolios have a lot of work ahead of them ;)

I totally agree.

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ThemeProvince says

Not agree. Not only because i code in AS2 . You’re thinking on developers, but the fact is that almost 60 or 70 percent of buyers are not flash developers, they don’t even care about the version, unless they need to mix the file with another one.

Do you think TF buyers care about themes programmed in PHP 4 or 5?
Btw, PHP4 is 10 years old.

+1

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LanceSnider says

Not agree. Not only because i code in AS2 . You’re thinking on developers, but the fact is that almost 60 or 70 percent of buyers are not flash developers, they don’t even care about the version, unless they need to mix the file with another one.

Do you think TF buyers care about themes programmed in PHP 4 or 5?
Btw, PHP4 is 10 years old.

+1

Well, that’s only partially correct. Yes, a large portion don’t care what it’s built in, but those people would be just as happy with as3. Why would you want to miss out on the entire dev demographic? Like I said, as3 is searched twice as much as as2. The other big problem with uploading as2 files is that you’re putting a short time limit on the lifetime of your file. Yes, people still buy as2 files now even though as3 if 4 years old. Do you think they still will when it’s 6 or even 8 years old?

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LeatherwingStudios says

isn’t a proposal to ban AS2 (I know there is not one yet) kinda like Apple banning Adobe’s SWF -to-iCode converter?

I’d much rather have a quality AS2 item from DS than yet another AS3 preloader!

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pezflash says
Yes, people still buy as2 files now even though as3 if 4 years old. Do you think they still will when it’s 6 or even 8 years old?

Lance, let’s be realistic. We all know the lifetime of a site. Could be 3/4 years. Much less for already done templates against “personal developed sites”.

I think as2 or as3 should be a decision of the author, not a restrict of the marketplace. He/she can take the risk of missing buyers, if they are really missing (i asumme they are, of course).

Anyway, i think we are moving away the main idea of Michael when posting this thread.

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tsafi says

I stop coding completely in AS2 a year ago for projects ,but i still find my self coming back to AS2 from time to time , and I code in AS3 almost 4 years or so ,I am a big fan of AS3 but I do agree with the Pez` on this .

First any one who state that we should convert AS2 to AS3 certainly don’t know much about AS3 coding, second if you do convert AS2 to AS3 you will see deference in performance on complex project on most, and I see it pointless to convert AS2 files to AS3 its only good for sells not more then that.

Third who ever say AS2 should be off from here certainly don’t know how to code in AS2 .

I say it many times it doesn’t matter how you do it, what relevant is the final resolute the way your app` running and look /perform and there are some great AS2 template application here, and I say this from someone who scorn the old AS2 coding.

There is room here for AS2 also and for sure AS2 is not the cause for sell drop like some state …. But AS3 is the key for long happiness.

Man its late……

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pezflash says

I need to add something. As someone mentioned in this forum a while ago, Envato is a business. Envato is getting more money from TF. So they are expending more money in promoting TF than AD.

Nothing wrong with that. If i sell cats and dogs, and people prefer dogs, i will clean up the dogs, comb their fringes and put them in front of the main window.

Complainings are logical, but somehow not reasonable.

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LeatherwingStudios says

I’ve read through the entire thread and I hear “templates” over and over as the standard of a high-quality, useful Flash file. I don’t know about other buyers but I rarely, if ever, use a Flash template instead of an HTML website. I use Flash a lot to enhance HTML websites but every place I use Flash I also provide alternate content. so if I used a Flash template for an entire website I’d have to produce what…a complete alternate website in HTML ?

I believe there may be a real misunderstanding of the value and future of Flash templates. I surf the web a lot and I almost never hit a site that is entirely Flash except for sites created by folks promoting their mad Flash skills and the occasional highly specialized site like Nick or a movie site. But these are just my observations and certainly not based on any real analysis.

What I’d like to see is AD having at least three main areas, 1) complete solutions, 2) high quality, high-function components and 3) the rest of the stuff.

Templates would fit in #1 as would RSS Readers, complete, high-quality games, etc. High-quality Banner Rotators, marquees, etc. would go into the second category. Dog animations, preloaders, clocks, etc. would go in the last category.

Just my 2 cents as a buyer.

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CodingJack says

Some great comments in this thread.

My thoughts:

  • Cartoon animations shouldn’t make it to the homepage.
  • TF authors would riot if Envato put a link to Flash files in their menu. Just saying.
  • Lots of files seem to be under-priced lately. This is discouraging to authors .
  • The AS2 vs. AS3 argument is an interesting one. I never thought it really mattered because you wouldn’t think buyers would know the difference. But Lance’s search statistics shows that we may be underestimating the customer.

The one thing I would do would be to bring back the old blog. As a buyer, I used to always checked out the files of the week. Regular article features like this, along with the old blog’s friendlier reading format seems like it probably helped sales more than the new blog does.

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