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Joost Volunteer moderator says

Hey CodeCanyon,

I’m more of an ActiveDen author, but I’ve been wanting to spread to some other marketplaces as well. I went looking for a file to build for CodeCanyon, as a learning experience and to test the waters around here, above anything else. It seemed like building a jQuery slider would be a good start – didn’t seem extremely difficult, and as there was already a bit of comparison out there it would be a great possibility to learn from.

After quite a bit of labour I ended up with (what I thought was) a pretty decent slider.

Turns out you guys don’t want any more sliders! I received a rejection message stating that there are too many sliders out there already and if you want to build a new one, it needs to be really awesome. Where have I heard that before..?

On ActiveDen, there’s a wiki page called Files we do and don’t need that clearly states which files the above applies to, for ActiveDen files. I searched the wiki and googled around, but couldn’t find a page like that for CodeCanyon. Turns out someone started a thread about it a few months ago, though.

So I guess my question is.. why is there no such page, but are files still getting rejected because there are too many of that kind? I perfectly understand that you might want to reject a file for this reason, but it would’ve saved me so much hours (especially tedious documenting and optimizing for IE) had I known that my file wasn’t going to end up on CodeCanyon.

So please, please write up such a page for CodeCanyon as well before using it as a rejection argument.

EDIT : I just remembered. On AD, before the above was enforced, authors were given two weeks to finish any projects they were working on and that were on the list – seemed like a fair thing to do. Read the announcement here

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omarabid says

I think it’s a bad idea. This is a market, each one brings his products and sell. But there is an issue, especially with the Javascript category. You can easily just copy the code, change a little bit the design and your new item is ready.

In my opinion, your item needs to be unique. If a slider should have 5-8 transitions effects, then you need at least 3-4 new and unique ones for yours to get accepted. I don’t see a reason for rejecting new sliders other than that. And what if we have lot of sliders? That just benefit the buyer, and the seller; they just need to be unique and different.

In a related note: Explore new opportunities. Forget about the popular files here, check the popular files in the web. Make something more competitive and bring it to Code Canyon. It’s not hard, you just need to figure that out.

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Joost Volunteer moderator says

I think it’s a bad idea.

The idea isn’t on debate anymore – it’s in place and files are being rejected based on it, which is a good thing in my opinion. The thing my question was about was the fact that these guidelines arn’t documented, at least not for CodeCanyon.

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Reaper-Media Volunteer moderator says

Yeah it does seem to make sense that if files are being rejected, there should be some documentation somewhere on the wiki about files we do and don’t need. Maybe enough has changed in the last two months for Jeffrey to reconsider? :)

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Joost Volunteer moderator says

Maybe enough has changed in the last two months for Jeffrey to reconsider? :)

Appearantly so, because files are being rejected :o

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Australia says

Why is it a good idea to dismiss similar items ?

I have seen some shocking code on here, and yet it seems to get passed by the adjudicators. Possibly because “it seems ” unique or fresh.

However lately I have seen files, purely ripped from other sites and changed slightly, to try to decieve.

Seemingly, as the net moves on and code improves aswell as peoples abilities, I see no reason as to NOT have 300 different sliders.

Not that I am into image sliders, in fact they do my head in…

But I have only ever seen 1 or 2 that really make me go WOW .

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Why doesnt someone come up with left handed webpages.

Or Circular browser windows.

Or rich data applications ?

Why because it takes time and effort, and people learn by following the code of others and refining on the whole. Thus this answers my original reply.. more sliders are needed.

Blame the people that haev approved some of the crap on here, or in fact cull some of it.

How many times have we all tried to check out a link on here and the site is dead, or is now a link farm, or a porn site. Why doesnt envato employ ping systems at the least.

But back on track, good code in my opinion is always welcome, not lways innovation just good clean code that works, and is extensible.

So bring on the sliders.

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jwmcpeak says

EDIT : I just remembered. On AD, before the above was enforced, authors were given two weeks to finish any projects they were working on and that were on the list – seemed like a fair thing to do. Read the announcement here

I can see that causing a large influx of scripts that we frankly don’t need—especially for scripts that have little variation between them (like sliders).


Seemingly, as the net moves on and code improves aswell as peoples abilities, I see no reason as to NOT have 300 different sliders.

Not that I am into image sliders, in fact they do my head in…

But I have only ever seen 1 or 2 that really make me go WOW .

That last sentence is exactly why. They all do the same exact thing—there is little variation between them. And then throw in the fact that there are tons of sliders that are free. It’ll take a WOWing one to be accepted.

Competition is good in every marketplace. Flooding the market with a product is not.

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23andwalnut says

Here is a thread about this from 2 months ago, where Jeffrey Way commented: http://codecanyon.net/forums/thread/sugestion-codecanyon-files-we-do-and-dont-need-page/37578

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TutelageSystems says

That last sentence is exactly why. They all do the same exact thing—there is little variation between them. And then throw in the fact that there are tons of sliders that are free. It’ll take a WOWing one to be accepted.

I would like to think even though your item (slider in this case) was rejected, if its code was above and beyond to what was already up there, (example: you set your slider up so it could be easily changed, and people can easily learn from it) then they would take that into consideration.

It does feel like there are a lot of items on the marketplace already that are the same. I always think what the code is behind such an item, is it messy? or can someone take it apart and learn from it (personal license?).

I think the reviewers (if they don’t already) need to look at this in their decisions as well.

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Joost Volunteer moderator says

The main point of this thread isn’t the debate on this rule – Envato decided for it already, it’s not on debate.

The point of this thread was to ask the staff for the required documentation before actually enforcing the rule. I see your concern, Jwmcpeak – it’s not relevant at this point anymore, though, because reviewers have appearantly already started rejecting files based on this system.

What I’m trying to say it.. please file a list of file types that are no longer being accepted, based on the fact that there are too many out there already. I think CodeCanyon owes this to the authors, if you’re rejecting files based on this.

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