It puzzles me why there is such a backlash on this new subscription model. I suppose folks do not like change. Like editors I know still using FCP7. I’ve been using the CC since it was launched and I love it. Makes perfect sense, both professionally and financially.
but can it be justified to upgrade to a CC subscription plan, if the majority of clients you are a working for still using CS4 ?
Since i upgraded to CS6 last year, i haven’t made back the full cost of buyign this, as of the backward compatibility issue. Plus ‘bugs’ and annoying learning curves, and odd things (Photoshop CS6 anyone?)
And as someone said – they’ll probably raise the subscription price soon once they’ve reeled everyone in.
We really have an issue of upgrading just because a company brings out a latest product. But do we REALLY need to upgrade just yet? Will all my AE plug-ins work the the newest upgrade? will i have compatibility problems and have to go though the hassle of a clean install?
I don’t doubt that sooner or later (maybe 2 years or so) i’ll update to the latest super-duper Adobe CC… but think i’ll stick to 5.5 for now. It’s stable, works fine and does the job.
What bothers me is that you can not open the files unless you have a current subscription. Make no mistake, this was not done for the benefit of Adobe’s customers; it’s a move to make their investors happy. Also, like was already mentioned, when they have everyone on the hook there is absolutely nothing stoping them from raising the price of the subscription and you have to pay it or you can’t open your files. It might sound good now, but it’s not good for consumers.
I personally hate subscriptions, because a) it’s a continual drain on your wallet, like rent/electricity/mortgage and b) you can almost Bet they’ll igradually increase the price over time, like cable tv companies and all other subscription plans do.
They will get you “hooked” at the $49/month rate, then after a year or two it becomes $69/month, than $89 a month, then $119 a month, then $149/month, and more. I first predicted the subscription-only model 2 years ago on the forums here, mark my words now that it’s in place they’ll try and raise rates over time.
Then you are paying like $1600/year for adobe software access, and will think that’s normal. It’s Not. Think about it. For guys like me, I skipped releases, and bought every other release, for just what I needed, like windows, I skipped vista and win8, using instead xp and win7. By Forcing you to pay a monthly bill, they are conditioning you to think that’s normal—you can see on forums why hundreds of negative comments about this everywhere you look.
I’d rather buy and Own my software, updating when I feel like it, not having a hand in my wallet sucking money out every single damn month. That’s horrible. Just like here—if there were some subscription plan I’d not join, or join for a bit then cancel… by having all the content here “a la carte”, I like it that way since I buy what I want When I want, on my terms… not a continous vacuuming out my wallet.
Just How Many monthly bills do you want in your life, sucking away all your money? It’s a no no.
Brilliant insights in this article, someone else posted it in another thread here (thx MSFX):http://timelapse.org/2013/05/adobes-creative-monopoly/
Point is there’s not much more innovation coming, so they want to force subscriptions to keep making money off of you all. I am NOT going to subscribe and will use CS6 for the next 4-5 years.
True. Imagine if Apple forced you to connect to internet and update your ios every few months, else your iphone would stop working?
Now imagine Adobe forcing us to update our software every month else, our creative careers would stop working…
...think about it…
also… will we be paying for unwanted bloatware like Edge Animate and Muse Mobile?
Adobe CC & Cloud environment – BRILLIANT and useful for teams
Subscriptions – HORRIBLE and money-sucking
you pay 100 bucks per month for your cell phone contract? I think you need to update that
Well it’s really about $80 per month plus taxes and fees which ends up being closer to $100. I don’t know what the average price is around the US, but everyone I know in NY pays about the same for their monthly smart phone bill. Unless of course you go with a pre-paid option. But using an iPhone and sticking with a 2GB per month data plan, it breaks down to about $80 each month + taxes for me.
I’d rather buy and Own my software, updating when I feel like it, not having a hand in my wallet sucking money out every single damn month.
I have to agree with you on this one, Ken. I’m a bit weary about the subscription model, from an authoring standpoint. If I were operating a design studio with a group of motion graphic artists, editors, developers, etc., then yes, the CC subscription model would be perfect.
However, as a VH author, I like building any project possible in CS3. I still get requests from customers who are looking for AE7 versions of my projects, so there’s obviously a market for people who are still using CS3. The way I see it, a decent size of the demographic who only have $25 (or under!) to spend for an AE project, are typically the ones who are using older versions of the applications.
I’m not 100% opposed to the subscription model, however I guess I need to do a little more research to see if it’s really for me at this point in time.
Right now, I’d rather expect to pay about $800 every 18 months to upgrade to what I need, than $49/month to stay current with the new software.
My monthly phone bill is about $7. Now will be more because I used my smartphone while I was in foreign countries last week (few calls, few sms, and few VH earnings checking), it will be about $15-20 maybe