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bfintal says

http://themehybrid.com/

Thanks for pointing that out, I didn’t even know that they did the same thing at the same price!

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WPWiseOwl says

Thanks for pointing that out, I didn’t even know that they did the same thing at the same price!

No problem. Some may not be a fan of that approach but it’s apparently worked for them and could for you.

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ThemeBuddies says

I don’t think it is fair to say that your framework is the “Easiest to use” if there is no GUI for creating options. I think so far Option Tree is the easiest to use. Their GUI for creating options makes it a breeze. No coding needed at all. Then when I am done, one button creates all that code for me. I know the Redux team is working on a GUI. Unless you have one, calling any system the most easy to use is a bit of a stretch.

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SimpleRain says

@bfintal – Lead dev over at Redux Framework here. Welcome to the party! I really do wish you the best of luck and congrats on the release.

Let me give you some advice. If you have something so unique, so powerful, so amazing people will pay for it. If you have the same as they can get otherwise and free, they won’t. Take for example the Redux typography module. Arguably the most advanced typography field in the WordPress space. Full CSS output, dynamic preview, google fonts with updating sizes, scripts, etc. I spent 1 month alone on that field. I gave it away. Why? Because it was better than anything out there and I knew it alone would be a draw. It works unlike 99% of the typography fields that exist. So I gave it away, and that drew people to me instantly.

Now, our config file is complex for this reason, unlike your framework we ship with a sample configuration. This sample config comes loaded with every option we can throw in it. In the beginning it was full of functions. One dev decided to post the modded sample config, but keep a function name. Voila, install the Redux plugin and the theme crashed. So we moved into a class structure. We haven’t had cross-over like that since.

Here’s how I declare a new panel: $this->ReduxFramework = new ReduxFramework($this->sections, $this->args);

Pass in an array of sections (tabs in your case) and fields below them. Args is for all of the panel. This gives you a panel, full CSS output, and customizer support without doing another thing. You can also add help menus to the panel page. I fail to see how dividing this into multiple declarations than your framework is easier. We’re doing virtually the same thing. Yours is, however, easier to read, but does create more lines of code.

I fear, as @ThemeBuddies said, ACF and OptionTree are the easiest for non-devs to use because of their panel-building GUI. Of course, that is on our agenda down the road. ;)

I love having people in the community making great things. Add me on Skype @bfintal. I was your first fork on your repo and sent you a pull request too to fix a minor bug. I wish you could join us instead of making your own, but I understand where you’re coming from. Again, I wish you the best of luck.

For everyone else:

@FinalDestiny Thanks for the kinds works about Redux. We’re glad you love it.

@TommusRhodus Redux offers customizer support as well out of the box automatically and links to the panel. Best of both worlds. ;)

@iKreativ Sometimes having a zillion options gives your users more power. It’s a balancing act for sure, but don’t disregard advanced features and just consider them useless even if they’re useless to you, a dev. ;)

@WPWiseOwl Wow, thank you for the kind words. I am glad you’re enjoying the “great redux unification.” I also agree, many have tried this model before. I would argue that it’s not extremely successful unless it is vastly unique. ThemeHybrid is very much unique, so it worked.

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SimpleRain says

Oh and one last thing… This is something that many devs do that I think is bad form.

  • Multicheck
  • Multicheck Categories
  • Multicheck Pages
  • Multicheck Posts

These items are one field, 4 configurations. Don’t claim they’re 4 fields. LOL. Plus if you want to change one thing you have to update code in 4 locations. Oy. Just a suggestion.

;)

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dnp_theme says
@SimpleRain
There is something called Vafpress that comes with
  • full typographic control (face, weight, style and subset) and some sample boilerplate to get preview
  • metabox support for FREE
  • shortcode support for FREE
  • extendable and super flexible
  • ajax field interactions
  • repeatable and/or sortable and/or nested field groups
  • jquery UI engine
  • font awesome 4
  • bootstrap 3

It does not support customizer or upload font features yet, nor does it have the years of experience from NHP, SMOF or the new Redux, but in my eyes comes with a much higher value. You can extend the core classes and build whatever you can imagine: sliders, page builders, you name it.

I am not trolling around, just to give our Titan Framework developer an idea on what’s goin on :)

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kprovance says

It does not support customizer or upload font features yet, nor does it have the years of experience from NHP, SMOF or the new Redux, but in my eyes comes with a much higher value. You can extend the core classes and build whatever you can imagine: sliders, page builders, you name it.

And one can’t with Redux? News to me.

I am not trolling around, just to give our Titan Framework developer an idea on what’s goin on :)

Debatable.

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dnp_theme says

And one can’t with Redux? News to me.

For Redux you need to purchase an extension for Metabox as far as I know and some more other small things. But I know Redux is great as is.

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SimpleRain says

@dnp_theme Here, here. Vafpress is a fantastic piece of work and I love chatting with the devs. We pass ideas back and forth from time to time. Good stuff.

I would argue that Vafpress and Redux have different features and different strengths. I wish we could just work together, but alas it is what it is.

@bfintal You really need to look and compare what other frameworks are doing. This is a slide from our most recent webinar. It shows the different frameworks we gather ideas from: http://cl.ly/image/3K1v3z1L0y2d

If you want to check our full webinar, you can here: http://reduxframework.com/2014/02/february-webinar-review/

But yes, LOVE the Vafpress team. :)

What @kprovance means is you can make any field and extend anything you like and use any type of hook within Redux to alter data at any stage of the game. ;)

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kprovance says


And one can’t with Redux? News to me.

For Redux you need to purchase an extension for Metabox as far as I know and some more other small things. But I know Redux is great as is.

Well, a great man once said, ‘good work isn’t cheap, and cheap work isn’t good. The Redux metaboxes go far beyond what others typically offer. And if one is selling a successful (or even half-good) theme, it pays for itself in what, four sales? Five?

That said, my point was Redux has an extension engine that allows anyone, at any time, to create their own field (or feature) and give it away, if they like. The only limitation with Redux is your imagination. :)

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