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Bedros says

In my book they already did that, i know quite a few authors that are now trying alternatives, to be honest we built a team as a company in small offices and we are struggling, of course a 1000$ is not the same to all country’s. Envato has to know that this business is not mobile app business you cannot earn billions from one or few themes and risk everything to achieve that. And leaving us authors to now days handle more and more things for our own exposures is just not profitable especially when clients are demanding more and more.

As somebody (cant remember who) sad on forums that when a big company registers 3 bad quarters in a row then they wake up but by then its all over.

Clients just don’t care how much money we as authors earn they demand support and god knows how many things they want in there head, i think that at least 20% of clients think that we are envato lol :)

And to be honest when an author as digitalscience which i see you have 7 years badge has such concerns and negative energy from all this and envato does very little then we shouldn’t expect much from them anyway.

If i compare my posts from when i began its funny how everything gets darker and darker in my words :)

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liviu_cerchez says

If you scroll under the search bar area, the whole page seems to be missing a stylesheet file. The “Just For You”, “New”, “Free” and “Featured Author” are white/gray “blank” sections with a list of (individually designed) thumbs. I know you are trying to simplify the design, but that doesn’t mean you can’t add/keep some style to make it look good. It now lacks any uniqueness and I think a reviewer would reject such mockup.

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dedalx says

If you scroll under the search bar area, the whole page seems to be missing a stylesheet file. The “Just For You”, “New”, “Free” and “Featured Author” are white/gray “blank” sections with a list of (individually designed) thumbs. I know you are trying to simplify the design, but that doesn’t mean you can’t add/keep some style to make it look good. It now lacks any uniqueness and I think a reviewer would reject such mockup.

This is exactly what I mean before. Themeforest have very strong rules for authors who submit themes, but does not follow its own guidelines on its own design (Themeforest design).

For example 90% themes on themeforest support Responsive feature (this is very important in 2014 year and this is already “everyday” feature that any theme should have by default) – themeforest does not support responsive and even have a lot of problems with display on mobile/tablets.

Retina support ? No.

Cart? (themeforest is a largest marketplace for digital items. At least simple cart is important). Again – nope. Can you submit eCommerce theme without cart for review and get it approved?..

W3C Validation (at least for homepage, NEW homepage)? – 17 Errors, 63 warning(s).

Current homepage design irrelevant to all second pages. Looks like this is two different websites made by different designers with different things in mind. Even background colors is absolutely different. If you want to change website design and made fresh modern look you should change all site design in the same time (after some testing with some small beta group of users/authors). Adding small changes to different parts of design LIVE PRODUCTION SITE several times per year is not ok. This looks like we made some theme, a lot of people bought it and use it, then we suddenly change only theme homepage design (made new design from scratch and apply it to theme update). This looks crazy even when users have ability to not apply update if they don’t want (on Themeforest users does not have this apportunity, design just changed everyday automaticaly like magic).

We already accustomed to new buttons with flat shadows in design that was added before (strange that some buttons have this new styles, but some not. Design looks uncomplished with this different buttons in different places). I think design with the same different styles for similar elements will be rejected by reviewer :), but new homepage is not suitable for the design of the all entire site and subpages.

Now just look to overall Themeforest sales satistics:
Total ThemeForest Sales Amount – $ 172 000 000.. If we just check that 30% earnings get envato (actualy more, not all authors elite and have other rates) this is $51 000 000 profit.

The question is – Envato why you can’t hire some good designer and web developers who can implement all required features and fix design issues quickly? Why search engine can’t be improved for years when third-party developers made excellent search just using your API in several days without spending any money (just for fun and for free): http://tf.marketopia.net/ ? Why you don’t understand that this will give huge improve for your profit first. You launched envato studio (microlancer) this is great service, I think you invested a lot of money and people time to this project, but fixing search engine can take less money and people but give more profit for your company.

I think many authors here agree with my opinion.

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tips4design says

The question is – Envato why you can’t hire some good designer and web developers who can implement all required features and fix design issues quickly? Why search engine can’t be improved for years when third-party developers made excellent search just using your API in several days without spending any money (just for fun and for free): http://tf.marketopia.net/ ? Why you don’t understand that this will give huge improve for your profit first. You launched envato studio (microlancer) this is great service, I think you invested a lot of money and people time to this project, but fixing search engine can take less money and people but give more profit for your company.

+1 I simply do not understand how they are not embarrassed after releasing such an update in front of so many web specialists. :(

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cyzer says

My Opinion

  • We are now more clicks away to sort what we want to see.... I dont like this. The design looks OK overall but the drop down tabs are outdated….
  • And still… unfortunately now it looks like someone used a template for the looks of homepage. it used to be unique.. now homepage just reminds 1000000 of other websites.
  • And alot of empty space which leads to a need of scrolling down.... who the hell likes scrolling ?? I dont.
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    jota_themes says


    The question is – Envato why you can’t hire some good designer and web developers who can implement all required features and fix design issues quickly? Why search engine can’t be improved for years when third-party developers made excellent search just using your API in several days without spending any money (just for fun and for free): http://tf.marketopia.net/ ? Why you don’t understand that this will give huge improve for your profit first. You launched envato studio (microlancer) this is great service, I think you invested a lot of money and people time to this project, but fixing search engine can take less money and people but give more profit for your company.
    +1 I simply do not understand how they are not embarrassed after releasing such an update in front of so many web specialists. :(

    Altough agreeing with what was mentioned I think envatos speciality is not web design but rather what we want wich is to manage a good marketplace. And thank god, otherwhise they would be submitting themes and not running a huge marketplace like this one. It has been good so far but lacking a bit on community management which is a core attribute to run such a thing. I just dont see people being listened to..but rather top to bottom classic decision making. To be honest the homepage does not need to be super fancy, what it does need is to work, getting buyers what they want and consequentially sales to authors

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    Creattive says

    I need to see new items from favorite authors ONE or FEW times, and if I don’t clicked it or added to favorites/lists why I should see it EVERY time I visited TF site every day? Even if I buy all this items I will see it every day again on the FIRST PLACE of homepage!

    You have no idea how many authors a customer follows and how often they release items. The whole line could be changed within 12 hours if he follows enough people. Also, this line is not marketplace specific, so he also sees new audiojungle items on themeforest. And a customer who comes here everyday (like in your nice example) has a lot of authors he follows I guess. And if not, he can change it.


    And as I see Just for you block show some random items (that I actualy don’t need) if I guest (and I think if I don’t follow people too). Of course this block should be here, but not in the first place and not around featured items (featured and new items more important then Just for you).

    Here I quote the original post of this thread:


    the “items from authors you follow” is now full width — we completely hide this panel if there’s nothing to show (no more gray boxes wasting space) and we’ve added a link to pretty basic full archive of these items (both very popular requests from the community)

    If a user is coming to the site, he sees right away if there are any new items that he wanted to know about. If he wants this bar to change more, he can look for more authors to follow. If he wants to get rid of the bar completely, he can unfollow everyone.

    The Just for you bar should be on top of everything.

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    doru says

    I think there is a plan here.

    They will release the real homepage on envato birthday

    Now they are just playing around and laughing at all the comments :)

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    justinfrench Envato team says

    @justinfrench is it too hard to put categories links back and make a test so we can see if our sales get better? Is to too hard to hear from us and take our comments into account?

    Sorry if I wasn’t clear in previous replies, but yes, we will (at least for now) chang it back to visible links instead of a drop-down. I don’t know exactly when, but soon!

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    justinfrench Envato team says


    Overall conversions (visitors to purchases) did not drop. If they dropped even a little we would not have rolled out these changes to 100% :)
    Of course it not drop in “overall”. Now people who previously buy not power elite authors items will buy only top items, instead of regular items from regular authors. Market sales now moved from regular authors to power elite authors who have very popular items with a lot of sales.

    I completely understand that concern, but as I’ve mentioned in other replies, the number of clicks through to new items from the home page also did not significantly change.

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