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XanderRock says

Thanks for the clafirication and for the roadmap. It’s really nice to see what is coming up for the next 6 months.

But I have a question related to Sliders. If I purchase an Extended License for a slider and include it into my theme, it won’t be working as a plugin. Layer Slider is an awesome slider and they say you need to include it into theme if you give it with your theme as an Extended Licensor. Because you combined them. And if you give it as plugin then user will be able to buy a theme which contains 8 plugin and then use all of those plugins as standalone. And that’s not fair for the plugin developers. I think it should be allowed to include these slider items into the theme.

So can we include sliders into the theme? Specially premium sliders. Even 3rd party (which not related to CodeCanyon) premium sliders. Because it would go againts to license terms if we include them as standalone plugins

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Japh Staff says

Something that is not clear to me is : metaboxes must be in plugins?

At the moment, I believe that metaboxes will need to be in plugins for the phase 2 requirements. Do you see this as a problem?

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Deveraux says


Something that is not clear to me is : metaboxes must be in plugins?
At the moment, I believe that metaboxes will need to be in plugins for the phase 2 requirements. Do you see this as a problem?

You could end up with hundreds of metaboxes when you change themes a few times. Currently I’ve 8-9 for posts, 6-7 for pages. That’s a total of 15 for one theme.

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Japh Staff says

But I have a question related to Sliders. If I purchase an Extended License for a slider and include it into my theme, it won’t be working as a plugin. Layer Slider is an awesome slider and they say you need to include it into theme if you give it with your theme as an Extended Licensor. Because you combined them. And if you give it as plugin then user will be able to buy a theme which contains 8 plugin and then use all of those plugins as standalone. And that’s not fair for the plugin developers. I think it should be allowed to include these slider items into the theme. So can we include sliders into the theme? Specially premium sliders. Even 3rd party (which not related to CodeCanyon) premium sliders. Because it would go againts to license terms if we include them as standalone plugins

This is a great question, and I will have to get some clarification on this for you from the rest of the team. Do keep in mind that this is relating to Phase 2, which has a longer timeframe also.

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pjtops says

I have a question. Do we have to really follow this: http://make.wordpress.org/core/handbook/coding-standards/php/#brace-style I don’t like my braces with unnecessary spaces.

Same question here. Are the wordpress PHP formatting rules meant to be followed in full, or are just bits of the rules being picked? If the whole standard must being followed, so be it. But if just a few specific rules are being selected from there, then please don’t pick the most controversial rules. Like the tabs vs spaces issue, a debate that’s been going on since programming started.

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bitfade says

At the moment, I believe that metaboxes will need to be in plugins for the phase 2 requirements. Do you see this as a problem?
We use custom meta mostly to add additional fields to custom post types and such info are almost always theme specific. For instance, consider a portfolio: the project custom post type definition would be included in the plugin but theme may require specific per-project meta settings like:
  • open project in lightbox window: yes/no
  • cell layout: 1×1, 1×2, 2×2 (consider a grid-like view)
while project title/content/featured image/format can be shared across all themes, theme specific meta would be useless because not used anywhere else.

You will never have an unique set of meta working for all themes, not even considering themes from the same author.

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Japh Staff says

Same question here. Are the wordpress PHP formatting rules meant to be followed in full, or are just bits of the rules being picked? If the whole standard must being followed, so be it. But if just a few specific rules are being selected from there, then please don’t pick the most controversial rules. Like the tabs vs spaces issue, a debate that’s been going on since programming started.

At the moment, we’re not requiring that the entire set of PHP coding rules, as outlined for WordPress, be followed. We’re specifying a couple of them that we do require in order to improve legibility of code. If it would be easier for you to simply follow them wholesale though, then by all means, please do!

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Softwebmedia says

Thank you Japh for your great effort for clarification :) I have one question.

Why “page builders” are allowed in the theme? ( phase 2)

If buyer will switch to any other theme then all content added via “page builder” will not work in another theme.

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Japh Staff says

We use custom meta mostly to add additional fields to custom post types and such info are almost always theme specific. For instance, consider a portfolio: the project custom post type definition would be included in the plugin but theme may require specific per-project meta settings like:
  • open project in lightbox window: yes/no
  • cell layout: 1×1, 1×2, 2×2 (consider a grid-like view)
while project title/content/featured image/format can be shared across all themes, theme specific meta would be useless because not used anywhere else. You will never have an unique set of meta working for all themes, not even considering themes from the same author.

This still seems like something that could be incorporated into the plugin to me. Even if it was incorporated in a flexible way to allow different themes to specify theme-dependent meta.

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AyoThemes says

I have good feeling about Themeforest marketplace since Envato hired you, good move Japh :D

Anyway, how about theme customizer http://codex.wordpress.org/Theme_Customization_API Does this feature should be on theme or plugin?

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