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KingDog Envato team says

I don’t understand why they don’t update us on this.

Haven’t forgotten you :) We’ll announce it on the forums etc. when Phase 2 officially launches.

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bfintal says

Haven’t forgotten you :) We’ll announce it on the forums etc. when Phase 2 officially launches.

Is it safe to say that Phase 2 won’t be implemented yet this year?

I want to get started on my next theme, but I’m still moving things out of my framework to plugins. If phase 2 isn’t on yet then I can start on my theme right away without doing the plugins thing.

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starshade says


I don’t understand why they don’t update us on this.
Haven’t forgotten you :) We’ll announce it on the forums etc. when Phase 2 officially launches.

At least tell us if it will be in effect this year or not. Many authors, me included are currently working on new themes and it’s very important for us to know more about this.

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isarmstrong says
Haven’t forgotten you :) We’ll announce it on the forums etc. when Phase 2 officially launches.

Sorry if this has been asked a dozen times – but what are your policies on bundling a functionality plugin with a theme? The separation of concerns seems to fit nicely into what you are doing and would allow theme developers a way to convert their work to the new system without losing a bunch of features.

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AdrianBotea says

So if we need to make a separate plugin with all metaboxes,shortcodes … could we just “recommend” some existing plug-ins ?

Or do we need make our own ?

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Smartik says

So if we need to make a separate plugin with all metaboxes,shortcodes … could we just “recommend” some existing plug-ins ? Or do we need make our own ?

You can recomend any plugins you want from WP.org. If the plugin is already in Worpdress Plugins Library and is good enough why make another one?

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AdrianBotea says

You can recomend any plugins you want from WP.org. If the plugin is already in Worpdress Plugins Library and is good enough why make another one?

Yep, that’s what I thought.The only concern is that submitted themes with “custom” plug-ins will have more acceptance wight.Or am I wrong ?

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whiterider says

Did someone considered the following and if yes, what is the answer:
Few examples:
Breadcrumbs as plugin from ThemeHybrid is 16,5kb. Built in breadcrumbs, properly styled for a theme I bought from ThemeForest is 9kb.
Post carousel like flexslider or meta slider is over 2MB. Built in carousel is 170kb.

And another question, most of the plugins load js. Often they load the same js files but from their own folders. Both versions are loaded in the console. What will be the loading speed if I have 10 plugins? Or 15?

What is the point to load isotope wall for portfolio and isotope masonry for products and isotope grid for blog from 3 different plugins with 3 different sets of customization, js and css files? And on top of that I have to override the css with my own?

I am asking as a customer with low to mediocre css and php knowledge.

What is your advice?
Thanks,
Georgi

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pixedelic says

Did someone considered the following and if yes, what is the answer:
Few examples:
Breadcrumbs as plugin from ThemeHybrid is 16,5kb. Built in breadcrumbs, properly styled for a theme I bought from ThemeForest is 9kb.
Post carousel like flexslider or meta slider is over 2MB. Built in carousel is 170kb.

And another question, most of the plugins load js. Often they load the same js files but from their own folders. Both versions are loaded in the console. What will be the loading speed if I have 10 plugins? Or 15?

What is the point to load isotope wall for portfolio and isotope masonry for products and isotope grid for blog from 3 different plugins with 3 different sets of customization, js and css files? And on top of that I have to override the css with my own?

I am asking as a customer with low to mediocre css and php knowledge.

What is your advice?
Thanks,
Georgi

Good point, +1

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waveminded says

Another suggestion… Standardize WP pages if this hasn’t already been done. I’ve noticed some themes are lacking
- search results page
- 404

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