We should delete all items and start uploading the NEW types of files envato wants

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phpbits
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My suggestion is don’t allow themes to offer premium items for free e.g. “Revolution Slider”. Should be theme price + plugins

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ThemeBeans
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Sooo… what you’re saying is: “Higher quality template files that have more customisation options and features sell better than lower quality files with less features” ...?
Less features doesn’t mean lower quality. This is a great misconception about stock files and unfortunately, this is what buyers think now. That’s why originality is almost dead on the marketplaces..

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VF
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For good reason, we don’t allow authors to price their own items; and this is just one of those loop-holes that probably needs to be regulated as well. I’m not sure limiting the amount of premium plugins a theme/template can include is the answer. Instead, we probably just need to make sure that item prices more accurately reflect the item’s full value.

I think anything that takes additional review work wont end up as a solution. Instead of that, a policy that restricts about inclusion of commercial assets will take care better for a long run. (this requires implementing such restrictions in the “past”)

Whenever it comes to crazy amount of inclusions, there is no harm with MIT licensed / free ones. Adding price for those kind of inclusions will negatively impact buyer’s perspective about price increment.

Anyway, personally I think things were moved way long to the point of no return. Since the library already has fair number of premium bundled items, it would be impossible to raise prices or set policy without re-reviewing all those old items. I doubt if marketplace will commit for this.

As an author, I don’t care of other authors taking advantage of those inclusions. I am still interested to see a good search system that ensures deserved exposure – lack that is a huge undercut we face right now than anything else.

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harmonikas996
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Support for Doru!!!

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quickandeasy
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Less features doesn’t mean lower quality. This is a great misconception about stock files and unfortunately, this is what buyers think now. That’s why originality is almost dead on the marketplaces..

Of course of course, my point is more about quality :)

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doru
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So are you guys saying that it would be helpful if these kind of rules (where possible) could be more clearly defined for all our other Marketplaces too? For example, allowing a ThemeForest item to only have a certain number of third-party sliders or plugins (particularly if those sliders/plugins are sold individually on CodeCanyon)?

I think the problem is not putting limits but pricing the item at his real value. If an item has 10x more value than one that cost 45$, then it should be priced at 450$.

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Hey Scott – long time since I saw you on the forums nice to have your input.

Hi Jonathan, always a pleasure to talk to you! Thanks so much for the summary, I totally hear you. I’ve already posed those questions internally to get us thinking about what we need to do to address these kind of issues. Thanks to you and to everyone else with the follow-up messages, I’ll continue to keep an eye on this thread and will report back as discussions continue. :)

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ThemeBuddies
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Envato does reject files for lack of features. They say that it “Does not have enough features to compete in the the marketplace”. The design may be fine but they want you to add those 10,000 plus shortcodes and infinite color options with every font known to the universe.

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snkart
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We live in a world where people value things by the amount of money they cost. Sometimes the price is right sometimes not. Same thing happens on the market too. Some author may add more objects in a file that gets uploaded and the price of te approved file will be let’s say with only $5 -$10 higher than one that as also good objects and similar too but fewe. Now that’s not fair of course, but there are some authors who, for the sake of getting a sale, put god knows how many things, objects, features, etc, in there file.

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plugindistrict
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Sooo… what you’re saying is: “Higher quality template files that have more customisation options and features sell better than lower quality files with less features” ...?

Great translation! LOL

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